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Started by Kevin, Nov 23, 2014, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jul 28, 2017
    Imagine thinking Eli is a top 10 QB still lol. What is this? 2011? Also lmfao @ Wilson being out of the top 10 after the season he had last year. i'd assume you were high if you told me Flacco was better than Wilson, Dak & Cousins lol. This list is horrendous.
     
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  2. Boos
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    Because if you actually know football you know Wentz is better
     
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  3. Boos
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    Jon Gruden is preparing to return to coaching apparently
     
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  4. TimmyT
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    TimmyT Self-Taught

    Jul 28, 2017
    bradford was traded to the vikings 8 DAYS before the season started. the vikings were 31st or 32nd in rushing yards last season. the offensive line was horrendous.

    and yet bradford threw in the low 20s for TDs and only had like 5 interceptions. that's pretty good.

    now i don't know if he'll keep it up this season, but you can see why i'm optimistic about him

    luck is really, really good. he's EASILY a top 10 QB.
     
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  5. Kon
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    Kon

    Jul 28, 2017
    Yeah Bradford if he stays healthy should have a good year, I'm excited about the better o-line and adding Dalvin Cook to the mix as well, he sounds like a big playmaker.

    Hoping the D can be more consistent cuz they were amazing the 1st 5 weeks last year and then completely fell off, and it wasn't even like the D had a ton of injuries..Lots of young players though, just gotta be more consistent. Barr even admitted his effort wasn't what it needed to be all of last year, he's gotta come back strong this year hopefully cuz he's a beast when he's on.
     
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  6. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jul 28, 2017
    Wentz played top notch football for most of the first half of 2016 and then he really struggled in the second half. Dak was consistent throughout the season but didn't hit the ceiling that Wentz hit last season.

    Wentz first 8 games: 9 TD's, 5 int, 1890 yards, 64.3% completion percentage, 87.7 passer rating

    Wentz last 8 games: 7 TD's, 9 int, 1892 yards, 60.8% completion percentage, 72.3 passer rating

    It was honestly after the loss to Washington in week 5 where he started to struggle a bit.
     
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  7. Boos
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    Yea, I mean to me, Wentz's problems are basically needing to be more consistent and tweaking his mechanics a bit. He did a lot with basically no talent at WR and without arguably our best OL for ten games. I don't think it's a coincidence he started to struggle a bit the first game Lane Johnson got suspended up until the last two games he returned. He never felt truly protected with Big V at RT and started to miss high, which is the worst place to miss. I think Wentz has shown he is capable of being a top tier QB in this league with some fine tuning, and now he has the players around him to do it.

    With Dak, I feel as if we still don't fully know what he is/isn't capable of due to being masked with the best line in football, Zeke, Dez, and two incredible go to guys in Witten and Beasley. They baby'd him for most of the season, not even letting him throw more than 20 yards at times. Although, he did come on a bit towards the end of the season when they started to let him let loose a good amount.

    Strictly going off of the eye test, I'd say Wentz was more impressive, putting as much bias aside as a possibly can lol
     
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    from a non-biased position i mostly agree w/ this.

    despite the problems he had week 6 vs the skins, he dropped some f---ing dimes
    had no favors either w/ below avg Wr's dropping passes and a rookie RT w/ no chance blocking kerrigan
    edit" didnt ryan Math. fumble too.
     
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  9. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    My top 10 QB's based on last year would prob be

    1. Brady
    2. Ryan
    3. Luck
    4. Rodgers
    5. Carr
    6. Wilson
    7. Brees
    8. Stafford
    9. Cousins
    10. Dak
     
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  10. Rowney
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    lol cousins aint top 10 just yet
    Cant have dak up there just yet either imo

    Where is Big ben, Rivers, Cam
     
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  11. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Based on just last year. Last year cousins was def top 10.
     
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    The Gooch Gucci FlipFlops (aka Rap Game's Steven Adams)

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    cousins had a lot of empty stats tho imo. the running game was abysmal and they were trailing a lot so he was forced to keep throwing
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    You could say this for most of Peyton Manning's career too. Or even Dree Brees. Cousins was really efficient in almost every category of passing. Especially when it came to the deep ball. He was arguably the best deep ball passer last season:

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    Dak as a top 10 qb is f---ing laughable. He's a mixed Alex Smith. Serious regression coming this year.
     
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    Cousins was a--- when it mattered though.
     
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    Wentz, Bortles, Mariota and Winston will be better than Dak this year.

    I'm convinced Wentz will be a top 5 QB in a few years.
     
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    TimmyT Self-Taught

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    this is a big year for blake bortles. before last season started, it looked like he was trending in the right direction, but he took a step back last year.

    now he has leonard who will hopefully take pressure off of him. i hope bortles does well because jags fans deserve to have a winner. but if i'm betting on it, i don't think bortles is gonna do much better than he did last year
     
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    Big Mitch You never made me ran once

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    Guys I'm so ready for football to start.... When teams report I start to get way too anxious and it kills me. Can't wait for Sundays to have meaning again.

    Also, that list is awful. Derek Carr #10? I'm biased af but he was a legit MVP caliber player last season. Easily the best QB in the division.
     
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    U mean the cousins that faded vs panthers/giants/cowboys/cardinals during the latter part of the yr

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    The Gooch Gucci FlipFlops (aka Rap Game's Steven Adams)

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    I'll admit Im straight Cousins hater tho. What happened with RG3, even though it wasn't his fault, really made me hold a grudge
     
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