Kendrick Lamar now that bad blood is #1

Started by WPG, May 28, 2015, in Kendrick Lamar Add to Reading List

  1. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2015
    no. no, no, no. trying to sell yourself as a savior of hip-hop by using the vocals of a dead man who has no say in the matter is totally indefensible. in every single way.
     
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  2. Narsh
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    May 28, 2015
    welp when u put it that way im on your side for sure

    i guess i was giving kendrick more leeway. he's mentioned for years of tupac's influence on his life etc. that "vision" he's had, whatever.

    i thought, on some level, it worked because of how relevant the audio was to today's societal issues. you seem to be taking authorial intent very seriously this time around. why?
     
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    Pablo Dragon Z-azou

    May 28, 2015
    And the funny fact is that nobody could ever explain me the hate lmao.


    Ok i'm going to make a thread about it :502:
     
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  4. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2015
    i haven't brought up intent once. the painfully obvious effect of the interview is to compare the two, to tie them together. pac can't consent to that. it's using a murdered man's legacy in an attempt to mythologize yourself, even if kendrick's "intent" was to speak on broader issues. it's completely inexcusable, and i hope someone he respects explains that to him.
     
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  5. Young Sinatra
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    May 28, 2015
    You are taking it too seriously
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2015
    tell that to pac's friends/family.
     
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  7. Narsh
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    May 28, 2015
    It seems like you're bringing up intent whenever you talk about Kendrick wanting to mythologize himself. For someone who listens to the album in a vacuum, the interview does serve some purpose.

    or does that not matter at all?

    genuinely curious
     
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  8. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2015
    > rapper has a god complex about himself for half a decade
    > rapper pretends to have a conversation with tupac at the end of his second album

    i'm not really projecting anything onto the situation
     
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    May 28, 2015
    I might like Bad or Dangerous more, but Thriller is perfection.
     
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  10. Young Sinatra
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    May 28, 2015
    "Mythologize himself"

    Do you even know what the word means? Kendrick was trying to show how weak and lost he was in the album to the point that he was actually trying to gain some advice from his biggest idol to later realize that he was still death and everything was an illusion. That's the point of "Mortal Man". He wanted to be in the future a big figure like 2Pac or Nelson Mandela, but at the same time he was scared of his flaws and how those mentioned defects and errors would affect him on the road. After reading the poem he realizes he is just a man that still have a lot to learn and work to, just like his heroes. He is not glorifying himself in the record at any moment, other thing are the thoughs you have about his persona but that's a completely different subject.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    you're adorable
     
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    May 28, 2015
    @Narsh

    re: Late Registration vs. College Dropout

    LR has a few more of my all time favorite Kanye songs than CD, but it's not constructed as well as an album. CD is still full of classic songs and has the benefit of flowing perfectly.
     
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    Show me
     
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  14. Mano
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    He's explaining songs to you [​IMG]
     
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    May 28, 2015
    I loved both albums. I have never been a pop fan either. TPAB gets a lot more plays simply because the sound is more appealing to me.

    Plus, whenever I'm with my friends and we're cruising or at a party and I have the aux cord, I'm not about to start playing T-Swift.

    1989 also took me a lot more listens to enjoy than TPAB did. I loved TPAB on first listen and was blown away. 1989 took like 5 listens until I found myself loving it.

    Shake It Off pisses me off tho.
     
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    white jesus god's son

    May 28, 2015
    You might be the one confused about what it means to mythologize. It's not the same thing as glorification. In fact, most of your post expressed the mythology Kendrick tries to cultivate.
     
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    May 28, 2015
    I'll probably come to that conclusion whenever I feel like sitting through either albums skits
     
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  18. Young Sinatra
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    Definition of "Mythology":

    What Kendrick's music have to do with this and how he is trying to be that? There is literally no connection at all. "Mythology" it's that, a body of myths, Kendrick and his records exists lol

    Also he is alluding that Kenny shows himself as a savior or a leyend in TPAB and it's not true
     
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  19. Narsh
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    May 28, 2015
    Kendrick 100% tries to mythologize himself. And I'm also very scared that his 2010ish-2012 run was lightening in a bottle.
     
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    Conexion
     
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