Official 2016 U.S. Presidential Election Thread

JMG · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016
It's time people accept that white people are standing up. You don't have to be scared but you shouldn't of tried to keep us down.

ArthurDW · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Lamont said

Hitler was a far left nationalist socialist, and he openly rallied against capitalism. he would be disgusted if you compared him to Trump. Such a lazy comparison. Nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers' Party, FFS.
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We compare him to trump because of his campaign build on racism, making their country great again, populism and because, like you said, Hitler was an extreme nationalist, just like trump is.

JMG · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016
Hoping trump considers David duke for his cabinet.

Alchemist34 · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Mozes Rose said

We compare him to trump because of his campaign build on racism, making their country great again, populism and because, like you said, Hitler was an extreme nationalist, just like trump is.
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Are you really trying to compare Hitler's patriotism with Trump's?

Cunner · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

21 Squid said

Already saying he's down with gay marriage and telling his unruly supporters to "stop it".

Not off to a bad start. Glad he's sticking to his more central roots.
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Pro life though

Cunner · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016
It was so hard watching him and the flotus chick in that interview man I'm really trying to give them a chance but they're just so embarrassing

His daughter cute as s--- doe

FLORIDA MAN · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Cunner said

Pro life though
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Life is good

Lil Squeed · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Cunner said

Pro life though
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I thought he said that might fall back onto the states to decide (but he may have been talking gay marriage, I just caught a little bit of that 60 minutes interview).

I never understood why we couldn't just say "once it has a heartbeat, you can't k--- it". That gives women like 6 months or something to make up their mind.

Cunner · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

21 Squid said

I thought he said that might fall back onto the states to decide (but he may have been talking gay marriage, I just caught a little bit of that 60 minutes interview).

I never understood why we couldn't just say "once it has a heartbeat, you can't k--- it". That gives women like 6 months or something to make up their mind.
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He said in the interview women would have to go to other states to get abortions tho if their state doesn't allow it what kind of fuckery is that tbh

Cunner · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Hunk said

Life is good
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Lil Squeed · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Cunner said

He said in the interview women would have to go to other states to get abortions tho if their state doesn't allow it what kind of fuckery is that tbh
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The same kind of fuckery that required people to go to Colorado to smoke weed, lol.

tbh, not sure why we even have a dual-law system (State/Federal) if nobody gives a f--- about it anymore

Cunner · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

21 Squid said

The same kind of fuckery that required people to go to Colorado to smoke weed, lol.

tbh, not sure why we even have a dual-law system (State/Federal) if nobody gives a f--k about it anymore
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Copping weed illegally vs getting an illegal backyard abortion tho

Tbh Americas whole political system is a vex

FLORIDA MAN · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

21 Squid said

I never understood why we couldn't just say "once it has a heartbeat, you can't k--- it". That gives women like 6 months or something to make up their mind.
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*6 weeks

Lil Squeed · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Cunner said

Copping weed illegally vs getting an illegal backyard abortion tho

Tbh Americas whole political system is a vex
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That's cuz these f---ers in school always talkin s---, always in the barber shop making regulations and never removing any so now we just got hella books with s--- written down and nobody knows wtf to do with it all.

I always though it'd make more sense to just have states vote on that type of s--- and whatever wins, wins.

Hunk said

*6 weeks
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Oh well then that makes it a little more difficult.

It'd be nice if we lived in a time when nobody r---d each other and/or thotties weren't out here getting knocked up twice a week. Then we wouldn't have to worry about this.

Mike Tyson · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Mike Tyson · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016
shout out to my boys in WA

seattle best city in the USA

Lamont · Nov 14, 2016

Nov 14, 2016

Mozes Rose said

We compare him to trump because of his campaign build on racism, making their country great again, populism and because, like you said, Hitler was an extreme nationalist, just like trump is.
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have fun with that comparison

Enigma · Nov 15, 2016

Nov 15, 2016
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...lp-the-white-working-class-or-the-urban-poor/

It’s been a week now, and the post-election narrative seems to be taking shape: Donald Trump’s shocking victory represents the revenge of the white working class over coastal elites. That narrative may be correct politically, but in terms of policy, it misses the mark in critical ways. Trump, if he sticks to his campaign pledges (a big “if”), will probably do little either to help the working class or to hurt the elites, at least economically. What’s more, this simple dichotomy completely leaves out the people who stand to lose the most, based on what little we know about Trump’s plans: poor and low-income families in urban and suburban areas.

Start with the elites: Sure, affluent, college-educated residents of big cities voted against Trump by overwhelming margins. (Hillary Clinton won 86 percent of the vote in Manhattan, up from the 84 percent that voted for President Obama four years ago.) But the reaction of the financial markets to Trump’s win is a hint that it isn’t the elites who have the most to fear in a Trump presidency. The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 5.4 percent last week, its best week since 2011; other major stock indexes were up nearly as much.

Short-term market reactions don’t necessarily reveal much about the longer-term direction of the economy. But there’s a reason that investors are optimistic about a Trump presidency. Taken at face value, his policies contain plenty of good news for investors: tax cuts for the wealthy, lower corporate tax rates and much less regulation of banks, energy companies and other big businesses. And it isn’t just captains of industry who would benefit: Trump’s child-care plan, for example, would favor affluent families.

Of course, college graduates and other members of the coastal elite weren’t necessarily voting against Trump because they thought he would be bad for them economically. Many were more concerned about his history of racist and sexist comments; his positions on immigration, abortion and criminal justice; or his overall temperament. But many of Trump’s white working-class supporters did cite economic issues as a significant concern. In his campaign, Trump pledged to bring back manufacturing jobs, get tough on foreign competitors and deport undocumented immigrants who, he said, push down the wages of American workers. Many of his voters have said they plan to hold him to those promises.

They are likely to be disappointed. Many of the economic grievances of the white working class are legitimate: Manufacturing jobs really have disappeared, and those that remain often don’t pay as well or offer the same benefits as the union jobs that workers remember from decades past. Economists, who said for years that trade’s downsides were minimal, have more recently begun to acknowledge that foreign competition has done lasting damage to many communities (though they still say trade is good for the economy as a whole). But despite his rhetoric, Trump offered few specifics during the campaign for how he would change trade policy to benefit workers; the plan his advisers did offer was widely panned by independent economists, some of whom warned it would cause a recession.

The larger problem for Trump and his supporters is that there is very little reason to think that any set of policies could meaningfully reverse the long-term decline in U.S. manufacturing jobs. That decline has been driven by a combination of globalization and automation — forces that aren’t likely to reverse any time soon. As I’ve argued in the past, politicians and policymakers would be better off focusing on how to improve the wages and working conditions of the service workerswho now dominate the U.S. economy — a subject Trump barely mentioned during the campaign. Trump had little to say about education, job training, entrepreneurship or other policy areas that might help workers in rural areas. And though Trump has said that lighter regulation will help the struggling coal industry, that will do nothing to change the low natural-gas prices that are coal’s biggest enemy. Indeed, Trump has also pledged to ease regulation of fracking, which will tend to boost oil and gas production, which will in turn tend to keep prices low. (Clinton, it is worth noting, had a detailed plan to help coal country, although many experts were skepticalabout its effectiveness.)

Finally, there are the people who have gone practically unmentioned in the post-election coverage: low-income families outside of rural America and the Rust Belt. There were 43 million Americans living in poverty in 2015, and 36 million of them live in cities or, increasingly, suburbs. Poverty is higher in the South and West than in the Midwest, and it disproportionately affects African-Americans and Latinos, whose poverty rate is more than double that of non-Hispanic whites. Blacks and Latinos also face higher rates of unemployment, lower rates of high school and college graduation and higher rates of foreclosure than whites.

In debates and on the campaign trail, Trump talked — often inaccurately — about inner cities as pits of crime and despair. But he offered few policies for addressing the economic challenges facing minority communities. Trump, unsurprisingly, didn’t embrace traditional Democratic policies such as a higher minimum wage1 or stronger worker protections. (He has pledged to exempt small businesses from the Obama administration’s new rulemaking millions more Americans eligible for overtime pay.) But nor has he embraced proposals from Paul Ryan and other conservatives to address poverty through other policy initiatives such as the Earned Income Tax Credit. Trump’s plan to increase infrastructure spending and cut taxes could spur faster economic growth in the short term, which would help create jobs and boost wages (although over the weekend, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, one of the most vocal advocates for infrastructure spending, questioned whether Trump’s plan would be effective). But few of Trump’s policies would do much to help low-income communities in the longer run.

Even the most policy-focused presidential candidates always leave key details unresolved during their campaigns; Trump was, perhaps, the least policy-focused major-party nominee in decades. That means he will take office as something of a blank slate. It is possible that once he takes office, he will begin rolling out detailed proposals to tackle the economic challenges facing both urban and rural America, and that he will be unafraid to take on the elites in the process. But there is little sign of that in the policies he has proposed so far. [\QUOTE]
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ArthurDW · Nov 15, 2016

Nov 15, 2016

Alchemist34 said

Are you really trying to compare Hitler's patriotism with Trump's?
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Their campaigns

Slyk · Nov 15, 2016

Nov 15, 2016

Mike Tyson said

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college educated whites is blowing my mind... i literally don't have a single friend i've met post-college who voted for trump. i guess i'm in that bubble they've been talkin about

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