Jun 4, 2016 You were comparing artistry, and you used "n----s in paris" as an example Yes, there is more of an human element involved than someone mixing machine made sounds. down to the very imperfections of the person playing the instrrument
Jun 4, 2016 Loooool you know the strings, brasses and bells used in modern music are in the most of the cases also made on the computer right? Or sometimes they're samples but still not live instrumentalists
Jun 4, 2016 I can make a beat with cello and piano I recorded myself, it won't be greater than n----s in Paris or skyfall or even the other beats I made with artificial sounds
Jun 4, 2016 First of i mean in general, you are probably just s--- with a cello and piano. Second, you were talking about artistry specifically. Art involves human expression. The less human expression, the less artistry So something mechanical , automatic and perfectly self repeating is inherently less artistic than something recorded by actual people playing instruments, especially when the people are mixing pre-made sounds. Without creating little if any of those sounds themselves. Even less so when specifically following a trend of sounds, like n-----'s from paris.
Jun 4, 2016 gangster s--- has a better beat than like 99% of metro's recent work @Mozes Rose wheezy > and up one on bankroll mafia
Jun 4, 2016 The fact that wheezy produced up one already establishes him as one of the goats. That song speaks directly to my soul
Jun 4, 2016 Lol, shut up dumb boi There can be human expression in mixing a sound, and you can play a suite of Bach without any "human expression", I assure you, I already did If to me, a beat made with more synthetic sounds is more like what I want to express than a beat with samples of me playing the cello then the electronic beats will be more of "art"
Jun 4, 2016 you playing the cello and piano would sound like s--- if there was any artistry in you playing, and if the song you sung followed up the artistry, then it would be by default more artistic than the mixing you some techno sounds. Because it would sound more organic. but fine, this time ill actually TELL you that im dne talking to you, instead of leaving you to figure it out
Jun 4, 2016 b---- you don't know anything about how I play the cello and you clearly never did sound design, never made a beat, or never practiced a instrument
Jun 4, 2016 I got what you mean tho but it would make the track more soulful, if anything. Not more artistic
Jun 4, 2016 I don't believe every opinion stated about music needs to be qualified with "BUUT ISS ONLY MY BELIEF", you should be able to read that yourself. but i really do believe he is man. i'm not gonna pretend like i have on objective metric for talent but he's young and has progressed so much in such little time. his production on barter 6 is absolutely not lackluster lol I dont know why you think that. we'll be able to have a more substantive conversation about this in maybe a year when wheezy has had a chance to mold HiTunes /maybe ICN4/produces more for other artists, but when it comes to thug, i have to say i prefer the beats that wheezy provides. his body of work is definitely nowhere near those other names but i never said it was.
Jun 4, 2016 Lol why the f--- would i do sound design , im busy doing far superior subjects. As for the other 2, No, too many people in my family doing that, and yes, congo's, and the different varieties of hand beaten drums
Jun 4, 2016 Yeah okay you pretty much do nothing involved with music but some hand beaten drums lol I don't think you're in the position to criticize my cello playing, especially since you never heard it lol And you clearly know nothing about music, since you don't know what a sample is, and you don't know that most classical instrument sounds in modern music are also artificial sounds or samples, but not live instruments And I repeat, the whole "human" factor can add soul to music, it won't make the artistry better
Jun 4, 2016 "Actually wheezy is more talented than those guys" really sounds like you pretend it's true you know
Jun 4, 2016 Lol I explained myself idk what more you want. If we're gonna be adversarial and provocative tho wheezy has more talent in his left nut than "metro boomin" ever will and u can see my username i have no bias
Jun 4, 2016 Yeah you explained yourself and it's aight but I'm just saying the way you formulated the things was not very myopinionish, I'd like to see you apologizing Please. @Withus Boomin
