Dec 16, 2015 Then how do you feel about the albums "blackness" contributing to Pitchforks selection? Is this a justified reason, especially considering the current political climate?
Dec 16, 2015 thats what Im asking you m8, how are people "hating" on kendrick in general? 99% of the forum think he has the best album of the year. Almost as many think its the best of the decade. So because 1% of the people think the album isn't AS good as others, Kendrick suddenly has people that would "hate him even if he was Jesus?" Do you see how you're being ridiculous? or nah
Dec 16, 2015 perry is, once again, outing himself as an utterly rigid thinker. of course you can't entirely divorce art from its context. of course that shouldn't be the entirety of your takeaway from a work. stop bumbling around ontario setting up false binaries you weird obsessive stan.
Dec 16, 2015 ok, so he still has the overwhelming majority on his side. you're kind of proving my point lol someone like thug has "haters." people that hate what he does without any actual insight. no one is doing that with Kendrick, but you're making it seem like they are.
Dec 16, 2015 you're an idiot if you think making an ambitious, unapologetically black album as a rap star in america isn't important. you're also an idiot if you think that's the sole reason people like it.
Dec 16, 2015 going against the grain -- edit paul keeps insinuating theres a secret cabal of critics who loath tpab. im not sure who but am assuming u align with that camp pretty cringey word choice. classic pov from a sheltered, likely racist hipster critic. that said, there's a fundamental rationale for recognizing an album's broader cultural importance, how its a touchstone in todays current climate of social strife. like ive said before, not all outlets are created equal.... each has their own audience and priorities. for rolling stone and pitchfork, it makes perfect sense to choose tpab, as its a thoughtful album white liberals can appreciate. i would not have written so explicitly about its "blackness" but its def a resonant, interesting album sonically regardless of whether u think it works
Dec 16, 2015 Hip hop has always been political... and it was always about reflecting what was happenin in the world
Dec 16, 2015 don't try to dodge a question with another vague question (what sort of response are you even expecting to that lol) just because you don't know what to say you coward what reasoning do I use that you were referring to earlier???
Dec 16, 2015 I agree. I'm not saying someones politics on an album cannot be admired, or even challenged, nor am I saying music cannot be political. I'm questioning how much that should matter to someones "objective" critique.
Dec 16, 2015 Way too many critics talked about the music and all that stuff so I don't mind some critics to talk about the political content. In P4k's case, it was more about Kendrick not compromising his work... thats how I take it.
Dec 16, 2015 d--- perry and @WPG playing verbal fisticuffs is like watching them battle for canada's soul eh
Dec 16, 2015 I'm not dodging :s I'm giving you the opportunity to flesh out your own beliefs, because, I've apparently straw-manned you.
Dec 16, 2015 Well when I see people post "TPAB was trash" on here without saying anything constructive, what does that say?
Dec 16, 2015 the guy who wrote the kendrick blurb is both very well-known and black. i'm not a fan of his, but let's be accurate at least.
Dec 16, 2015 @Perry The Platypus did you hear what the guy from rolling stones said on Sway in the morning? he said something like tpab was the soundtrack of "America in 2015"...he said it wasn't the only album to talk about whats happening in the streets but it's, in his opinion, the one that does it better. It was the soundtrack of what a lot of people lived in the streets this year and I feel like this is what Pitchfork is talking about.
