Eminem Pitchfork hit the nail on the head in regards to why recent music by Em is awful

Started by odd, Oct 10, 2016, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Jerome
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    Oct 10, 2016
    2 years ago my response would be "f--- pitchfork you f---ing haters" ,but now i "agree". (10 years is a little bit too much tho, but hes pretty much s--- since MMLP2 IMO)

    The next solo LP will be an important album for me.
    I hope the good music returns.
     
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  2. python
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Don't blame Rick Rubin, he's clearly wanted to go in this direction for a while, just look at W.T.P. from Recovery. The real problem is that I think Em did notice the criticism from fans after Recovery, and instead of interpreting it as "Well, they probably want something with more genuine emotion, better production, and less screaming", he chose to take it as "They obviously want me to rap and rhyme super duper ultra fast and whisper over my own generic, badly mixed production and barely altered samples of popular country songs!"
     
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  3. Cool Hand Luke
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    Cool Hand Luke born sinner is mediocre

    Oct 10, 2016
    this made me smile
     
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  4. VR46
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    VR46 Kamikaze

    Oct 10, 2016
    people that think choppy flow is bad are mentally challenged
    if you dont like it doesnt mean its bad
     
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  5. Vitaqua
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    Oct 10, 2016
    It was for the Shady XV review
     
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  6. Suburban Scum
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    Oct 10, 2016
    I can literally never imagine myself taking something so serious that I have nothing to do with creating as much as these people do
     
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  7. truthless
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Pitchfork had a field day with Eminem that day lmao. Interesting points though, I can't deny. Bu to me, that was a little too biased.
    Although these days, I do feel a little indifferent towards Em.
     
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  8. Big Dangerous
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Eminem fans in shambles because of how true all of this is
     
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  9. Michael Myers
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Honestly its getting to the point where I think the eminem s--- talk is getting lame though lol
     
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  10. Groovy Tony
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    Oct 10, 2016
    This feels like a glorified Shady XV review
     
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  11. Cerrone
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    Cerrone Anyone, any time, any place

    Oct 10, 2016
    Its been past that point for a minute now.

    If people are gonna s--- on the guy so much the least they could do is bring some new material once and awhile
     
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  12. Sigmatempus
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Barter 6 > everything eminem has done in the last decade

    He still has a goat trilogy and I liked Encore as well but everything else he has done just falls flat.

    Like everything, he has bare minimum to nothing when it comes to flow and all the production on his albums is f---ing awful and forgettable save for a few tracks you could count on one hand.
     
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  13. UofLCard
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    UofLCard MCMXC

    Oct 10, 2016
    I stopped after that short sentence.
     
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  14. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Oct 10, 2016
    i havent enjoyed an eminem song since relapse came out
     
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  15. HowHigh
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    Oct 10, 2016
    spot on
     
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  16. Soldier
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Eminem sucks and has s----d for 15 years. Thug is the best rapper alive. Don't quote me acne ridden anti social virgin teens, go tell your parents you hate them for no reason as you listen to Cleanin Out My Closet.
     
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  17. Pyrex
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Is there a link to this review? Otherwise I'm just given to believe that the OP wrote this himself.
     
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  18. Soldier
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Throwback to when Pitchfork gave Recovery a 2.9/10

    Accurate.
     
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  19. madeupshit
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    Oct 10, 2016
    it's hard to take p4k's opinion on eminem seriously in the context of their MMLP2 review using perceived homophobic lyrics in Rap God as a negative point of the album's quality, but i think their points here are valid. it's rough because you can see that he still has the talent to rhyme as well as he ever has, but he just has really bad taste, and unfortunately that reflects in the work. So Far... is a great song in some regards, insofar as it hits on a subject that em can talk about in 2014 without sounding like he's trying too hard to recapture something that's no longer relevant (I'm On Everything), but then between corny s--- like the log cabin anecdote (pun intended) and the godawful decision to use Joe Walsh for the sample, it's nearly unlistenable, even as a tongue-in-cheek thing. someone needs to take the reins from him on his next album, because he's got the talent, but no sense of how to apply it successfully
     
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  20. Section80
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    Oct 10, 2016
    Wonder if the person who wrote this knows pitchfork is painfully bad as well?

    Anyway, it genuinely seems to me that people are unaware of eminem's style/gimmick. It's always been the same.. eminem was never (even at his highest of highs) a melodic masterpiece. With that said, neither was rap. When em was great it had little to do with beats and melodies, while they were certainly miles and miles ahead of his current state he has always been a technically driven lyricist. I can't count how many times he's pointed that out, especially early in his career in an attempt to seperate himself from pop stars. I think people don't understand his intent anymore, although again he's stated it a million times. I can promise you he is fully aware he doesn't fit in with the current "rap" scene. I say "rap" because it genuinely feels like a different genre today.. and before I get hate I'm not saying for better or worse but it's entirely different. There's less focus on words/flow/skill with constructing rhymes and far greater emphasis on melodies and beats that sound good in a car. Which again, was never really his thing
     
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