Mar 3, 2017

Yeah I know. I think this album would've got BNM, but Pitchfork writers are too sjw.

 

Mar 3, 2017

pitchfork has a very disparate group of contributors

 

Mar 3, 2017

Show me one Pitchfork writer that isn't sjw.

 

Mar 3, 2017

7.8 guys


it will be ok

 

Mar 3, 2017

review been under my skin all day

 

Mar 3, 2017

*raises hand*

i would've given this ~9.0

also, for the record, "sjw" is a stupid dismissal in all contexts, but esp. this one: the complaint that "my collection" is grating is very fair and frankly pretty obvious

 

Mar 3, 2017

You're a P4K writer

Who are you?

 

Mar 3, 2017

But I'm referring to more the "slut-shaming" issue that the author raises.

Edit: And I think the "my collection" line is corny, but that's all. Rap is kinda grating. But this is just IMO.

 

Mar 3, 2017

Sometime I heard that it's like multiple P4K writers vote and then you do the average or perhaps a member that is kinda middle ground gets to do the review. Is that kinda how it goes?

 

Mar 3, 2017

how would you rank it in futures discog?

 

Mar 3, 2017

yeah like that but they sacrifice a f---ing goat first

 

Mar 3, 2017

um, yes, that's what i'm referring to too.

art doesn't have to reflect your social or political beliefs to connect with you. but if you're listening closely, of course that stuff is going to at least register with you, whether it affects your appraisal or not. (and in this case, the review is still very positive, so it's not like she docked him for it.) but it's a characteristic of the record, and any good critic would mention it.

i think Ironman is one of the ~25 best rap albums ever. so is Criminal Minded, which i just wrote about. both have moments that are insanely misogynistic (and, in the latter case, homophobic). that doesn't make me knock the records, but it's a characteristic and i'd be an idiot to not note that.

and no that's not at all how the scoring works.

 

Mar 3, 2017

I think to complain about slut-shaming is a very SJW thing to do, that's all.

 

Mar 3, 2017

Fucken swizz



Nah but for real, A LOT of hip hop music is grating, let's be real.

 

Mar 3, 2017

that's our swizz!!

 

Mar 3, 2017

well, let's dispense with the buzzwords and talk in real terms: what future does there is reduce women's actions to a very very narrow framework but spend a whole album explaining the nuances of his internal life. it doesn't matter whether you think that's bad or not, but it's an important characteristic of the album to note. it informs the whole thing.

 

Mar 3, 2017

exactly. but by @paulye's account we should not note that the arc is set up that way because it's a "sjw" thing to say.

 

Mar 3, 2017

It truly is Future's 808s, d---.