Aug 9, 2016 This should disqualify Trump imo. I don't give a s--- if he was voted in... If you actively encourage the idea of your opponent being assassinated, you should automatically be disqualified. Absolutely f---ing disgusting.
Aug 10, 2016 Manafort: "Please, Donald, just do anything you have to do to get this Khan story out of the news." Trump: "Anything?"
Aug 10, 2016 Does this have s--- to do with policy? Looks like another Trump side-comment blown out of proportion for people to latch on to. I'm more interested in his economics speech/Clintons speech this Thursday, you know, something actually relevant to electing a president.
Aug 10, 2016 Anyone who thinks he seriously was calling for an assassination of Clinton is a r----- and should have their right to vote rescinded. I'm so done with these non-topics dominating the media and election conversation. Who refers to assassins as "2nd amendment people"? Are you f---ing serious? What an insane bs reach. He's obviously talking about pro 2nd amendment people defending it from being thrown out by the SC, in the case that she attempts it. Anything suggesting further from his rhetoric is batshit. Mentally ill liberals will turn someone's words into something completely different lol.
Aug 10, 2016 How is joking about the assassination of a political opponent not relevant you f---ing moron? You don't think it matters if a presidential candidate is spewing dangerous rhetoric?
Aug 10, 2016 How is it a reach? Let's pick this statement apart here... “By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.” So my interpretation: he's suggesting violence Your interpretation: he's suggesting political activism, or something? I guess? Why is there nothing to do about Hillary's judges unless you're a Second Amendment person? He specifically singles them out, what could be different about them to distinguish them from the rest of America? If political activism/voting/protesting (whatever explanation you're clinging to) was an option, he would have just said that from the start! "Hillary will want to pick her judges, but folks, there's something you can do about it - you can vote for me, you can fight her in the courts, etc. etc." This is the type of thing he would have said if your interpretation was what he intended. But instead he says....there isn't anything you can do, oh actually MAYBE there is another thing if you're into the Second Amendment - but I won't say out loud what that other thing is (because he knows he can't!). This is part of why Trump is an absolute coward: he works in innuendos. He knows EXACTLY what he's saying, but he's too chickenshit to own it himself, so he tiptoes to the edge, makes suggestions, and blames it on a) a nameless "some" or "many" who told him to say it, and b) the media for covering it improperly. Trump in 2011: A lot of very smart people are telling me Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States...I'm not saying it! *They* told ME! Trump talking about Cruz's citizenship: "I’d hate to see something like that get in his way, but a lot of people are talking about it, and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport." Trump after the Orlando shooting, suggesting Obama is on the side of terrorists: "A lot of people think maybe he doesn’t want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. He doesn’t want to see what’s really happening. And that could be." Trump accusing the Clintons of murdering Vince Foster: "I don’t bring it up because I don’t know enough to really discuss it. I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. I don’t do that because I don’t think it’s fair." Trump has a history of making these sorts of outrageous suggestions. If John Kasich said this, or Bernie Sanders said this, I'd be much more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that perhaps they misspoke. But the Trump campaign's reaction is instructive - compare that to Hillary's 2008 RFK comments like @Tone Riggz did (which, by the way, is a terrible comparison lol). Hillary immediately apologized and walked the comments back. Trump isn't even remotely conciliatory or sensitive to the fact that his words may have been heard a certain way. There isn't even a hint at an apology in his statements or his campaign's statements in response to the media uproar. As president, you have to be incredibly careful with your words - say the wrong thing and the stock market will tumble. Say the wrong thing and you'll alienate allies and upset enemies. Say the wrong thing and you'll...yes, incite violence. Even in the most charitable interpretation of Trump's comments, giving him full credit that he didn't mean what I say he meant...he still shouldn't have said it that way, and he still should have acknowledged and been sensitive to those who took it the wrong way. Words matter when you're running for president, this isn't The f---ing Apprentice anymore. Donald Trump is a man who keeps proving, basically every day of this campaign, that he falls embarrassingly short of the standards we should have for our POTUS. You want to talk policies? I'll do that ALL DAY....but you've got a nominee who doesn't even reach the lowest of thresholds for the office. Policies are secondary when we're talking about someone who can't even be trusted with the nuclear codes. Anyone voting for this man should be ashamed.
Aug 10, 2016 @Swizz thunderclapping the forum with his wit and eloquence. Co-signed. Trump is not Reagan, Romney, McCain, Bush, whoever. He is a perversion, a parody of a conservative candidate for president. I rly hope his candidacy is a flash in the pan, and we will return to certain standards of decency in our electioneering. I'm sry guys... but if you vote for Trump you're an absolute idiot. Think about how truly stupid you are, and what your quality of life is going be with such a foolish worldview/mindset.
Aug 10, 2016 Well, I'll say it was a clever political quip because he could easily deny it while pissing off his opponents and creating a media stir which then plays into his narrative that there is a media bias against him.
Aug 10, 2016 yeah, doesn't sound good. definitely sounds as if he was hinting that the 2nd amendment people could call for an act of violence against hilary. trump is reckless. and the scary thing is this isn't the first time he's done/said something off the wall like this. he also mocked that disable person, but of course he denied that. but when you repeatedly have incidents like this, over and over, its hard to defend his behavior
Aug 10, 2016 italics/bold mine. also i need ur help IRL!!!!!! COMMENTARY America Needs A President Like Me Updated Sept. 30, 1999 12:01 a.m. ET By Donald J. Trump, a real estate developer in New York. L et's cut to the chase. Yes, I am considering a run for president. The reason has nothing to do with vanity, as some have suggested, nor do I merely wish to block other candidates. I will only run if I become convinced I can win, a decision I will make later this year. Two things are certain at this point, however: I believe nonpoliticians represent the wave of the future, and if elected I would make the kind of president America needs in the new millennium. Unlike candidates from the two major parties, my candidacy would not represent an exercise in career advancement. I am not a political pro trying to top off his résumé. I am considering a run only because I am convinced the major parties have lost their way. The Republicans are captives of their right wing. The Democrats are captives of their left wing. I don't hear anyone speaking for the working men and women in the center. After New York City had spent $20 million and seven years trying to fix the Wollman Skating Rink in Central Park, I stepped in and did the job in three months for $1.4 million. People urged me to run for mayor because they saw I could get things done. A few years later, New York Republicans urged me to run against Gov. Mario Cuomo. Both times, I appreciated the faith shown in my abilities, but I declined. Why am I now considering a presidential bid? First, Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura has strongly encouraged me to seek the nomination, and I highly respect Jesse as the embodiment of the political qualities America needs and voters reward. Given the choice between yet another slate of stale political professionals and Jesse's common-sense principles and straight talk, it was no contest. He has convinced me that we need this combination in the White House. The second reason I'm considering a run is Patrick Buchanan. He has the virtue of plain speaking, but he often says stupid things--the latest example being his comments questioning whether the U.S. was right to stop Hitler. His arguments are repugnant. Yet they were initially met by deafening silence from the professional politicians. It took three days for Elizabeth Dole and John McCain to react. This underscores the central problem with contemporary politicians: They are so concerned with winning votes that they cannot even find it in themselves to immediately denounce a man who winks at barbarism. I would bring a different approach to the White House. Those who have been put to sleep by our current wave of prosperity don't want to hear this, but I am convinced that we will soon face significant challenges--challenges we can surmount but that will require a president who is not fixated on popularity polls and re-election. I would enter office with the understanding that four years hence, I would be back in New York doing the job I love. What are these challenges? I agree with many respected economists that the economy may take a dramatic downturn in the near future. Having prevailed over a severe (and largely government-created) setback in my own industry, I know the tough decisions a chief executive has to make to return to prosperity. There are no easy roads back, and poll-watching pols who insist otherwise and govern accordingly will only prolong the problem. I also understand that our long-term interests require that we cut better deals with our world trading partners. This will raise an outcry because we've fallen into the habit of mistaking the easy availability of cheap, sweatshop-produced products for solid and sustainable economic stability. If President Trump does the negotiating, we'll get a better deal for American workers and their families, and our economy will not be as vulnerable to global pressures as it is today. Watch our trade deficit dwindle. Americans can also be assured that I would never support what has to be the craziest idea in U.S. politics since Pat Paulsen's White House bids: allowing the government to invest Social Security retirement funds in the stock market. Not only would a market downturn spell disaster for millions of retirees, the process by which government would chose stocks would be entirely political, making lobbyists and other political hacks the new masters of the universe. Our international adversaries would also note a significant change. North Korea would suddenly discover that its worthless promises of civilized behavior would cut no ice. I would let Pyongyang know in no uncertain terms that it can either get out of the nuclear arms race or expect a rebuke similar to the one Ronald Reagan delivered to Muammar Gadhafi in 1986. I would also immediately reverse the move to normalize relations with the most abnormal political figure in our hemisphere: Fidel Castro. We have pushed him to the precipice with our embargo, helped of course by the withdrawal of Soviet backing. Now comes a movement, backed by State Department bureaucrats, to rescue Mr. Castro with U.S. dollars. The striped-pants set won't like hearing this, but normalization is pure lunacy. If a right-wing dictator like Augusto Pinochet can be extradited and tried for his crimes against humanity, the same treatment is due Mr. Castro. An upcoming book spells out my beliefs in much greater detail. At this point, it's fair to say that I would center my presidency around three principles: one term, two-fisted policies, and no excuses. For voters, it would be a business approach, and the best one available in the presidential marketplace.
