Jul 10, 2017 You serious? lol you don't see how stupid it would be to argue that football is harder than basketball? I think the movie example works better: comedy movies are harder to make than action movies. They're just vague arguments that neither side can argue effectively. That's exactly what you're doing here, you're saying a style of music is inferior to another. Preference is one thing. If you don't like a specific artist or style because it's not your cup of tea, that's fine. If you're generalizing a group of artists under stereotypes or suggesting their music is "lazy" or "easy to make" that's something else. It makes you sound like 50+ year old man who heard Lil Yachty on the radio once and thinks they all make the same music. uhhh you quoted me first. I never quoted you directly with my first post, I was speaking in general. I'm just explaining to you what my post was saying. It's typically not used as simply a descriptor though, it's often used in a derogatory way as well. We don't do this with any other sub-genre in hip-hop. Do you see people calling Danny Brown, Eminem (earlier in his career), or even Andre 3k "nasal rap" because of how they rap with nasally voices? No. We do it with southern hip-hop that's popular today because it's widely viewed by people like you as inferior or uneducated music that's being dumbed down in some way. Like I said, we can dumb down any style of music and make it sound easy to make. I can go on youtube and find plentiful rappers who bite artists like Eminem or Kendrick. On SL we had posters who would make music more similar to the likes of a Nas, Jay, ect than a Kodak Black or Lil Uzi. Suggesting one style is harder to make over the other is just dumb.
Jul 10, 2017 if it's a s-----y example it's whatever, you're the one that made the comparison, i just went along with it what I said was one style is easier to make and mass produce, which is true didn't say you quoted me first, but that post was clearly aimed at mine there's not really a way to use it that isn't in a descriptive way tho and just because it can be and is used in a derogatory manner doesn't take away from that um yea we do idk how many times i've seen on this forum (and others, and w/ people irl) deem certain genres/styles to be a certain type of music and treated as less than because of it. if you want to play dumb on this issue tho, go for it a rapper having a nasally voice is not an equal comparison lol i mean, you can try Except it's not? That's literally just how s--- is m8. Idk where you get this idea that all styles are equally as hard to make/pull off. This is blatantly false, and like, really obviously so, and even more apparent when you look at it from a production stand point.
Jul 10, 2017 I made the comparison because that's what you're doing lol. Which is the same s---. "easier to make," you also called it "lazy." You're suggesting it's an inferior style of music. No, I was speaking in general like I said lol. I was talking about a broader point. If I wanted to respond to you, I would have quoted you. Such as....? Trap music has always gotten these derogatory labels that other sub-genres don't. We call rappers like Kendrick, Vince, Chance etc. "conscious rappers" but they're no more self-aware of their surroundings than Future or Rich Homie Quan. You wouldn't see them being labeled "conscious rappers" though because they make "mumble rap" which is automatically viewed as inferior by a lot of hip-hop fans. Why not? Some rappers rap with a nasally voice, others rap with a particular dialect. I mean... do you really think an album like HNDRXX is easier to pull off than an album like Coloring Book. Or a project like Tha Tour is easier to pull of than an album like 4 Your Eyez Only?
Jul 10, 2017 if the shoe fits... and you have to realize i'm not only talking about the vocals when it comes to trap a lot of my animosity towards the genre has to do with the production i've seen pretty much everything that you can't drink lean to get called cac music by one person or another lmao, as well as everything any white rapper does being called corny, along with any kind of "fast" rap hmmm maybe there's a reason why i can't speak for everyone else, but if i ever use that to describe something i'm not just talking about their voice, it usually comes in combination with quite a few other things, like the generic a--- production your average trap song has so yeah, it's not an equal comparison out of those I've only heard HNDRXX so I can't compare but again, i don't see why you act as if this is a hard thing to grasp. some stuff is harder to do than other stuff. it's a very basic concept for example u really think a song like Panda is as difficult to make as a song like Bag Bak? cause looooooool if so
Jul 10, 2017 Only responding to the first part: migos on that sean paul song >>>> and other features. I love their rapping and voices a lot just wish they would rap on more types of production
Jul 10, 2017 i could quite frankly let a LOT of s--- slide if the production was more interesting/varied i also feel like it would help keep a lot of trap artists from sounding so samey/repetitive
Jul 10, 2017 This. But most trap fans are so in denial and never 'understand' when I try to explain my issues with it. Luckily there are people like @Jehovah who, even if he not totally agrees, gets what I mean. For the record I listen to a lot of trap songs, but an album full of the same sounding stuff bores the f--- out of me
Jul 10, 2017 You're talking about the sub-genre as a whole. These sound more like a couple specific incidents than they do trends. Because people like you think there's something inferior about the sub-genre when there's not. You haven't even explained what exactly either. See, Panda and Bag Bak we can compare. Those are specific examples that you are giving. What you were doing earlier is painting with a broad brush and saying trap music as a whole is "easier to make" than other sub-genres in hip-hop. By saying that, you're saying Recovery was harder to make than Beast Mode. That Pound Syndrome was harder to make than Barter 6. Trap music is NOT always easier to make and that's my point. The comparisons should be between specific examples not generalizing an entire sub-genre as "easier" when that's not always the case.
Jul 10, 2017 i'm generalizing lmfao, this happens consistently on here stop frontin i did awhile ago m8 on average, you get s-----y, basic flows/delivery, basic and easy to produce trap production, and lyrically, it's nothing special content wise. it's not hard to see where a lot of trap falls flat against other music, let alone other kinds of hip hop no s---. i'm not saying it ALL is, there are exceptions to everything all i'm saying is on average, it's very basic s--- (especially the production, and as someone who regularly produces music, I will argue this particular point till I'm dead). does that mean I think that all trap music is like that? no, so don't act like that's what I'm saying cause it's not
Jul 10, 2017 Exactly and this is the issue lol generalizations are never accurate. We have posters here who are action bronson fans, logic fans, and a Eminem fans. The two biggest fan bases on here (Eminem and Kendrick) both "rap fast." Just because you see someone call someone else a cac doesn't make it some trend within the hip-hop community lol. How do you even determine what's "on average?" Are you talking out of a pool of all trap music made? Because like I've been saying, there are tons of s-----y underground rappers who follow in the footsteps of Eminem/immortal technique/hopsin that make music too. It's no different. That's exactly what you've been saying lol. You even said in this exact post "I'm generalizing." In the last page you said "some styles are just easier to make, that's just how it is."
Jul 10, 2017 double my age and subtract 3 solve for x--- x(2) - 3 = 33 add 3 to 33--- x(2) = 36 divide both sides by 2--- x=18 I am 18 years old, not 16 bud
Jul 11, 2017 haha i can enjoy the trap music in small doses, but for the most part, its not my thing. artists like migos make my head hurt. and too many of those type of rappers sound the same to me. now i'm not one of those people who thinks that all the new school rappers s---, i just don't think hip hop is as interesting as it once was. i'm not huge vince staples' fan, but he's one of the new school guys i like, and a big part of the reason why is because to me he doesn't sound like every other rapper
