May 15, 2018 i liked their debut and i thought white light/white heat was sick but past that the only songs i like are the murder mystery & i'm sticking with you it all gets loads of acclaim but i don't understand how any of it is more than standard radio pop. a couple songs on the self titled still had a garage rock sound but they were still just pop songs the thing that interested me the most in the velvet underground was all the stuff about them being proto-punk but it was more influential to post-punk than any other genre from what i can hear and from interviews i've read speaking of proto-punk i listened to black monk time recently and it was sick and basically everything that i want to hear when i think of proto-punk. this is from 66, 3 years before white light and 10 years before any punk bands released any music there's also a band from 63 although they only released a single. but it's armand schaubroeck's first band who ended up making post-punk in the 70s usually stuff labeled as proto-punk either doesn't share a sound, only an attitude or approach (like the kingsmen's "none of us can play our instruments" approach), has a massive blues rock influence or has a saxophone in it but sometimes you manage to find something that you know would straight up be called punk if it was made 10 years later. stooges first sounded like post-punk to me. i've been wanting to listen to yoko ono's plastic ono for a while since it's supposed to be really punky and experimental saxophones are vile
