J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Jun 17, 2020
    there lies the mistake you made in trying to rationalize Kanye’s ineptitude to be political or social. I make that mistake myself. If one continues to speak on s--- he/she does not fully understand, therefore sounding like a dumb a---, then just maybe..he’s a dumb a---. I have my opinions on kanye but they’re irrelevant.


    I disagree with your last statement too. Lol. I don’t see the hypocrisy. Being smart or intelligent is not fixed. It’s on a continuum. One can be smart in one thing and completely ignorant of another. No one knows everything. I think what Cole is conveying here is just how smart he is. He clearly isn’t privy to vast amount of information and knowledge he’s intimating that NONAME has acquired, so he’s coming from a humble place to want to learn more. He acknowledges is own shortcomings.
     
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  2. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Jun 17, 2020
    nah my brother/sister, I’m Not taking it personal. We’re just having healthy dialogue. I have respect for you and your opinions. All love.
     
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  3. Boos
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    Jun 17, 2020
    Yea I mean, Kanye always sounds like a dumbass whenever he tries to speak on things because he doesn’t think anything through. I don’t think the intentions are bad either though, just idiotic.

    Also, I get what you’re saying that Cole is obviously smarter than the Pumps of the world, and that pretty much goes without saying. However, I think he positioned himself as an educated person — and he is, no doubt — but he gets to reap all the benefits from the general public of being the top “conscious” rapper (Along with Kendrick), and I don’t think it’s right that he cops out like this when it finally comes to something that actually matters.

    Also, I think it was a terrible time to drop the song when the topic of yesterday was the undervaluing of black women in our country after that young black girl was sexually assaulted and found dead yesterday.
     
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  4. Boos
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    Jun 17, 2020
    Much love. The feeling is mutual
     
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  5. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Jun 17, 2020
    I agree with your middle “paragraph” lol

    is he really undervaluing NONAME though? I don’t think that he is. I could be wrong...
     
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  6. Boos
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    Jun 17, 2020
    Not undervaluing her, but I don’t think the time was right for this track yesterday. I think he’d have been better off releasing it before the passing of Oluwatoyin Salau. But releasing it the same day of that just doesn’t feel right with the premise of the song questioning Noname’s train of thought being that she is a vocal black female herself.

    was Cole’s song offensive? Nah, not at all. I just think he’d have been better off doing the research that he acknowledges he lacks right now in the song, instead of releasing said song that will bring headlines of “Cole disses NoName,” even though that’s not really how it plays out in the song. We know how things change on twitter though with people not even listening to the song.

    In the end, I think he’d have been better off staying silent if for nothing more than this is a huge distraction at hand when it feels like for the first time, in my life at least, we are on the verge of some actual change. We just need to be full steam ahead with the current movement instead of having two black icons (NoName being more of a cult icon, but still) going at each other.
     
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  7. KLD3816
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    KLD3816 Love yourz.

    Jun 17, 2020
    thanks for articulating your position. I guess I didn’t see it from that perspective. I agree with you about the timing and some of your other points as well. Thank you!
     
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  8. Uncle Luke
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  9. Bliss
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    Bliss I don't have any bitches

    Jun 17, 2020
    This s--- boring as h---, but shout out J. Snore for actually speaking his mind and not trying to be a f---ing sheep that everyone wants him to be. I respect that. And I can’t believe someone can have a problem with someone staying off the social media lmao, this new generation bro is crazy. Instagram and Twitter, s--- is a disease. I completely reduced that to a minimum. Kendrick and Cole a real ones for doing the same too.
     
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  10. Uncle Luke
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    Jun 17, 2020
    This whole situation gon bring to light all the slow mfs that swear they woke.. lol.
     
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  11. Pazuzu
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    Jun 17, 2020
    There are folks out there of all genders and race who are condescending and think they’re better than others when discussing certain issues. Having a smug, superior attitude isn’t going to move the needle and bring people together...it turns most people away. Shaming isn’t the way to go even if you agree with that person. Actions are greater than woke tweets. Cole is pointing this out. No matter what he or Kendrick do it won’t be good enough for some folks.

    And Cole, Kendrick and anyone else who wants is allowed to call out people for their condescending attitude no matter who it is and discuss any subject they want that want via a song
     
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  12. KLD3816
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    Jun 17, 2020
    I wholeheartedly agree.
     
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  13. thegoodguy
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    Jun 17, 2020
    d--- you guys the outro is p chill
     
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  14. Nav Bhatia
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    Nav Bhatia Bitch, be humble

    Jun 17, 2020
    Cole the goat
     
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  15. King Simba
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    Jun 17, 2020
    Good to have u back. Looking forward to the reincarnation of the j cole lost movement.

    Also 3-0, not much changes with arsenal lmao
     
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  16. Boos
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    Jun 17, 2020
    Eminem puts Cole on his GOAT list and two days later Cole makes a song “dissing” a girl. What a weird universe lol
     
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  17. Uncle Luke
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    Jun 17, 2020
    Who tf made the term “read the room”” that gotta be be some black twitter s--- smh lol
     
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  19. MsGray23JCN
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    Jun 18, 2020
    I agree
     
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  20. wizkashiva
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    wizkashiva YOOOO JCN!

    Jun 18, 2020
    What happened to your team bro.
     
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