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Started by Oldboy, Nov 28, 2014, in Eminem Add to Reading List

Relapse vs recovery

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  1. Mandalorian
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    Mandalorian This is the Way!

    Jan 8, 2021
    I just want to hear Eminem's good voice again, not the s--- he's been doing in recent years with his awful new voice.

    and I also want to see him on the charts again. let him make this pop rock album.
     
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  2. Mandalorian
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    Mandalorian This is the Way!

    Jan 8, 2021


    Recovery 2 is officially confirmed! Congratulate everyone! Shampoo!
     
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  3. Yeez
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    Yeez Yeez 5.0

    Jan 8, 2021
    Shampoo (feat. Joe Rogan) is pretty good from what I've heard
     
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  4. Mandalorian
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    Mandalorian This is the Way!

    Jan 8, 2021
    h--- Yeah!
     
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  5. ghostwriter
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    Jan 10, 2021
    in how many song Eminem mentions/ dissed/ talks about Bubba Sparxxx?
     
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  6. underground
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    Jan 12, 2021
    he saves extra dope s--- for the bonus tracks
     
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  7. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Jan 13, 2021
    Makes you wonder what else is in the vault that he doesn’t value lol
     
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  8. Red
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    Red Everybody Love Everybody

    Jan 14, 2021
    2.
    My Darling and G.O.A.T.

    also, came here to post my list:
    SSLP
    MMLP
    The Eminem Show
    Relapse
    Kamikaze
    Recovery
    MMLP2
    MTBMB
    Encore
    MTBMB-B
     
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  9. underground
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    Jan 20, 2021


    Anybody else really curious to hear MGK shade 45 freestyle ? all I can find is an interview
     
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  10. kodo
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    Jan 23, 2021
     
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  11. Spider Man
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    Spider Man With the hyphen

    Jan 24, 2021
    Recently I've relistened some albums from that era (namely the Slaughterhouse self-titled album, Trunk Muzik 0-60 by Yelawolf, and Success Is Certain by Royce), and it pains me how much potential got wasted because of label politics.

    Yelawolf had mainstream appeal (Pop the Trunk and Daddy's Lambo were everywhere back then), had skills, and was overall a very unique artist. Radioactive was not a bad album at all, but it had nothing to do with his unique style, and felt more like a continuation of Em's Recovery. The production is way too poppy, and there's a feature (mostly pop singers) on almost every song. I understand that the label wanted to ride the success of Recovery, but allowing him to do his own thing and put out something like TMR or Love Story as a debut album would've made him much more successful.

    The same goes for Slaughterhouse. I remember how big deal it was when four of the underground greats came together to form a supergroup. Their self-titled debut album was hard, continuing that line with a major label backing them would've made them huge. Kendrick has proven that a gritty style with good lyricism can still give you mainstream success. Like Radioactive, Welcome To Our House was not a bad album, but its sound was compromised and it was nothing like what fans had been expecting from these four. I hate how Glass House never got released, I'm sure Shady Records gave them more artistic freedom on it like with Yela's Love Story.

    I feel like Shady could've dominated rap music inbthe early 2010s again like in the early 2000s, but they f----- up by not giving their artists enough freedom. GRODT was so good because it was 100% raw 50 Cent. In 2009-2011, it felt like something huge was building up, but it never came to fruition.
     
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  12. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Jan 24, 2021
    Yella almost made it with Love Story, but then he flopped right after.
     
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  13. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Jan 24, 2021
    If Em, 50 and Dre had kept working like in 09, maybe the label could have survived. G-Unit also.
     
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  14. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Jan 24, 2021
    First time seeing the Foolish Pride release party at The Source. Crowd was dead.

     
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  15. Ids5621
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    Ids5621 R.I.P D12

    Jan 24, 2021
    Recovery, while good for eminem at the time, destroyed eminem's entire brand and everyone's affiliated with shady too. The lasting effect of that album are still felt to this day
     
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  16. TheRealEbonIvore
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    Jan 25, 2021
    interesting thesis. I would read this paper.
     
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  17. CSA
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    CSA Architect

    Jan 25, 2021
    Well, I have already talked about this years ago but yess. There is no denying that Recovery's incredibly huge success kinda changed the whole thing with Shady. Have to remember how huge was Recovery before anything else here. Even some songs such as Won't Back Down charted on some sites and radios. Not Afraid and Love The Way You Lie both are 2 of Em's very few songs to pass 1 billion views on YouTube. They both gone diamond (not sure if Not Afraid did but it's matter of time if it didn't yet). To put them in perspective, I can easily say those 2 are the biggest Em songs ever (can include Lose Yourself into this too but whatever.) Not just those 2, no Love almost has as much views as his latest biggest singles. That album was huge somehow. I'm not even mentioning the overall album sales worldwide.

    As we all know, Recovery was very different sonically compared to his previous work Relapse. Many poppy beats with guitar tunes, loud beats, loud rapping, almost a female pop hook on every song... They thought what made Recovery a huge success were those things. They were kinda right but not entirely. Because there were much more to it than just the actual sound of the album. It was an Eminem album with a great promo run and a lot more listenable, mainstream first single (Not Afraid) and second single just was still handsome Eminem featuring the world's biggest pop star at the time Rihanna for the first time on a love song! It was huge thing back then. No wonder people were too interested in it. But to think, other rappers would blow up with the same formula was very dumb thinking. Yelawolf's Radioactive, SH's Our house all went that same pop route, but unfortunately non of them did good. Non of the albums were bad, I loved Radioactive, but Love Story was 20 times better and felt a lot more authentic. It felt like art. But let me say this, yela would never blown up anyway. Daddy's Lambo, Pop The Trunk, they all had good runs and it seemed like the guy had potential but he just went to completely different sound in few years and Love Story kinda sound would never blow up today.

    As for SH, I never thought they would have made it. They simply didn't have it. They could have given a better hip hop album but they did or advised to did a poppy sounding album when they have no ability to be mainstream and they kinda flopped harder than Yela did. The album was worse too. It wasn't bad per se but it doesn't worth listenin lol.

    So in overall, of course Recovery effected the whole sound of the label a lot in that era. They thought it was all about poppy nice beats and good generic female hooks but no, it was about Eminem, a complete new side to him and his story, giving other people a hand with very brilliantly executed Not Afraid single, it was about him collabing with Rihanna and making a love song that I'm pretty sure many people thought it was actually about Rihanna and Eminem at first lol. (yes, mainstream people don't know much about those stuff) It was all the new, exciting and done by the most well known artists in the business. They should have known it wouldn't work with Yela or SH. Btw, I don't think anything would made those guys blow up at the time.Let's not overthink about it.
     
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  18. CSA
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    CSA Architect

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    Not really. Except that Best Friend feature that gave the song a huge boost, he didn't had much to capitilize on anyway. He was never really close at all but it kinda depends on what u mean by "making it". I'd say you have to have certain amount of fans and sales outside of US to be considered that.
     
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  19. Ricky
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    Ricky FORUM PRIME WILL BE BACK

    Jan 25, 2021
    Love Story is the last classic album Shady Records gave us. Stop sleeping.
     
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  20. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Jan 25, 2021
    Till it's Gone went viral too.
     
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