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Politics Russia Declares War on Ukraine

Started by Worm, Feb 23, 2022, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Chrollo
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    Mar 2, 2022
    What's your opinion on the two party system? Don't you think it will always lead to "the lesser of two evils" situations? Because from my understanding any vote that is given to candidates from parties other than Democrats or Republicans, is considered a wasted vote in the US.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 2, 2022
    If Biden didn’t have a stutter (which he’s dealt with his entire life) I’m almost certain people wouldn’t talk about his mental fitness as much. Biden’s been able to rally all the European powers against Putin & coordinate stiff financial sanctions against Russia. Even infamously neutral countries like Switzerland are sanctioning Russia. Germany is sending military aid to Ukraine when they banned providing military aid to non-NATO countries a while back. Putin is the last world leader I’d want to be right now. In no way, shape or form does he have the upper hand against anyone right now.

    Trump infamously hated NATO & wanted to pull the U.S. out of NATO. He was literally impeached for holding up military aid for Ukraine in effort to get Zelensky to find dirt on Biden. Trump has praised Putin for years. They were reluctant to do this under Trump because they understood Trump wanted to break up the west’s alliance. He was doing their job for them.
     
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    Mar 2, 2022
    this entire country is owned by the rothschilds and has been since the inception of the country, they fund both sides of every war and both parties, any vote regardless of whether it’s in the two party or not is a waste
     
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

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    rip jfk rip gaddafi
     
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    Yeah along as the Federal Reserve exists it don't matter who President is or what system. I think we were on the right track with someone like Trump who wasnt bought and owed any favors.
     
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    We don't need help from NATO.
     
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  7. pluto✰
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

    Mar 2, 2022
    this guy gets it, as usual
     
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

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    covid was literally just a few weeks ago and we’re back into the zombie like state of feeding into what the tv tells us how to feel

    the whole world could watch truman show and still wouldn’t realize the deception in their own reality

    dolores, have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? no, she responds every time
     
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  9. ShadyIXII
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    You do get it that US rallied EU powers to sanction Russia since 2014.?

    Russia is taking sanctions for 8 straight years, and we can see the effect of those today... For those 8 years Russia turned its business to Asia more than ever, Putin ratings grow more than ever, and yeah, he is even invading now 2nd largest country in Europe.

    You can try to sanction the Russia as much as you want. It will hit their prosperity but they have the whole Asia including China to breakaway from "the world!". And yeah, you will see those sanctions in work when next winter comes by and the whole Europe starts either freezing their a----s off or paying for the gas more than ever.

    And EU lethal aid... From we'll get the Ukraine 70 jets in a day, now it's 0 confirmed jets not from Poland, not from Bulgaria, not from Slovakia... Maybe US should deliver some F-35s, I dunno.

    So far UKR only got sentimental aid, and Russia will certainly just let all those rocket launchers and manpads just roll into country.
    You remember those news how NATO supplied UKR with hundreds of Javelins... So far we have ZERO seen Javelins not just in action, but not even on video of soldiers brandishing them, only NLAWs...
    And it's a great support... Lets keep arming Ukraine so they can k--- more Russians, and not to expect that Russians will start to burn the cities like Grozny.

    So far we know for sure.
    1. NATO said it will not go to war with Russia
    2. US said it will not go to war with Russia
    3.UK said it will not go to war with Russia

    But man, they are sure ready to fight with Russia, just not with their own blood.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    im not here to defend the effectiveness of sanctions. Tons of research has illustrated their effectiveness is a mixed bag & often hurt the working class/poor people of sanctioned country more than those in power. That being said, there has to be a non-military form of punishment that countries can yield & sanctions are that. Russia undoubtedly has other avenues to lessen the impact of sanctions but these sanctions are still going to hurt their economy, especially in the long run:



    In terms of military aid, I’m not sure what you’re even suggesting. That some of the aid hasn’t arrived yet? I mean yeah, sure, the Ukrainian government has also acknowledged the arrival of certain portions of military aid so it’s not like it’s not coming. Im not sure what you’re trying to get at here.

    The international community has reacted very strongly & unitedly against Russia’s actions. There are very obvious reasons why the U.S./NATO cannot intervene in this war militarily but aiding Ukrainians to fight both during & after the war is essential. This is suppose to be the “easy” part for Russia, what comes after (nation building) is far more difficult. Especially if their is a strong U.S:/EU supported resistance after the war is over. And the Russians should know this given their experience in Afghanistan. Do you think the Kremlin is going to want to keep Russian troops in Ukraine for 10+ years to support a puppet government? That’s what it’ll take.
     
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Mar 2, 2022
    Do Russians even know that they’re broke? 40%(?) currency devaluation in a week, but many of their news/internet sources have been filtered.
     
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

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    When 99% of the world is urgently and outwardly opposed to what your country is doing and many powers are sending aid to fight against your country’s actions…how do you support your government’s decisions, let alone jump into combat for that cause?
     
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    Mar 2, 2022
    Think how easy people from normal countries fall for miss information, then imagine if you live in a country where the only news you hear is properganda
     
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

    Mar 2, 2022
    he might actually be one of the few countries that isn’t since he paid off the rothschilds..not to mention they’re buying up a ton of bitcoin rn

    chances are they’ll move to a one world currency that russia won’t be apart of and they’ll adopt bitcoin as legal tender
     
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

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    ukraine been a police state! LOL
     
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

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    unreal
     
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    Mar 2, 2022
    Russian soldiers need to know if they defect they can become Ukraine citizens if they turn over Russian weapons.
     
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    pluto✰ where the opioids?

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    to join the losing team?
     
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