Politics 2024 General Election Thread

Started by Enigma, Apr 28, 2020, in Life Add to Reading List

Who did you/are you voting for?

Poll closed Nov 6, 2024.
  1. Kamala Harris

    27.3%
  2. Donald Trump

    20.0%
  3. Third Party

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Abstaining

    9.1%
  5. Not a US Citizen, but would vote Democrat

    21.8%
  6. Not a US Citizen, but would vote Trump

    10.9%
  7. Not a US Citizen, but would vote third party or abstain

    10.9%
  1. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    Aug 21, 2024
    "I'm a Conservative because a person doesn't look the same as when they were a teenager on Barney 20 years ago."


    Weird.
     
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  2. qwerty6160
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    Aug 21, 2024

    You forgot to say “coup”
    Trump all day.
    How about them 800k jobs they just retracted today? Dems are a joke and hide behind the media to make it look like they are empathetic towards everyday people.
     
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  3. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    Aug 21, 2024
    Do you think it is easy to keep an accurate record of jobs?

    I have 10 jobs. My main job I work 1.5 times the standard work week (60 hours as opposed to 40 hours).

    Then I have 9 other jobs after that.


    How many of my jobs do you think were accounted for?



    You don't.want to compare Trump to any other President in job creations by any metric... well maybe Hoover.
     
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  4. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    Aug 22, 2024
    [​IMG]

    Job creation since 1989 under Democratic and Republican Presidents.
     
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  5. Zebedee
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    Zebedee Banned

    Aug 22, 2024
    Stop posting propaganda without the backstory of the photo you’re posting or the man who originally made the chart, reservoir. You gonna gonna compare Obama’s economic reboom after the 08 crisis to Trumps covid infested years?

    What is the catch?

    Attributing job creation to policies or presidents isn’t as clear as it might seem. The Republican Congress of 1995 to 2001 might deserve a share of the credit for the job growth under Clinton — as could the Democratic House that served during Republican President Ronald Reagan’s entire presidency.

    In crises especially, the parties have historically worked together. When faced with the 2008 financial crisis and the coronavirus pandemic, George W. Bush and Trump "chose the policy responses that Democrats favored," said Dan Mitchell, a libertarian economist.

    Another factor is timing.

    There’s the small difference that Democratic presidents have held the presidency for a little more than 19 years in that period, compared with 16 for Republicans.


    Also, Rosenberg chose a favorable time frame for Democrats.

    Job creation under each president also depends on luck.

    Events elsewhere in the world beyond the control of any president can affect the U.S. economy, from oil price shocks to wars.


    Harry Truman, a Democrat, saw employment numbers that benefited from the post-World War II demobilization of troops. Democrat Lyndon Johnson took office right as the first wave of baby boomers turned 18.

    In one recent example, the number of jobs created under Trump would have been higher had a once-in-a-century pandemic not hit during his fourth year in office. Biden has jabbed Trump over job losses in the final year of his term without any mention of COVID-19.

    Two earlier Republicans, the Bushes, both left office with the nation mired in a recession, which hurt their employment totals. By contrast, their Democratic successors, Clinton and Obama, surfed the economic rebound to robust job creation figures over two full terms.

     
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  6. Zebedee
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    Zebedee Banned

    Aug 22, 2024
    Crazy how Res acts like some fountain of political knowledge yet most of the time he just reposts opinions and views from Democratic propagandists without fact checking or researching anything himself.

    Although I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt as he probably doesn’t get much time to fact check whilst working 10 jobs.
     
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  7. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Aug 26, 2024


    so based
     
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  8. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Aug 26, 2024
    So based to make an extremely convoluted jibber jabber statement of essentially: “yeah the optics aren’t great, but it’s still f--- those kids”

    All you shitlibs act exactly the same. This reads exactly like one of your posts, except they’re accidentally saying the strategy out loud.

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    People are tired of the gesture politics, it doesn’t wash anymore. Your party is aiding & abetting genocide, you can’t use orange man bad when you’re the active guilty participants.
     
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  9. Zebedee
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    Aug 26, 2024
    Lost it when she fused together wartime immigration with trans kids and how she's particularly worried about that specific group.:'(
     
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  10. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Aug 26, 2024
    Yeah, Supsuck's cousin came and went, did he even do anything?
     
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  11. BIGFOOT
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    BIGFOOT More than a myth!

    Aug 26, 2024
    Marsh, I'll tell you once and once only also as politely as I can.

    Get the f--- out of this thread. You and your r-----ed views do not belong here.
     
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  12. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Y’all are never beating these allegations. The calculus of choosing the better of two options you have in the general election is completely consistent with any adult that wants to actually improve the livelihoods of people. Gaza & its inhabitants aren’t the only people that will be impacted by the outcome of this election. They won’t be impacted the most either.

    Truly mind blowing that a group of people can’t recognize the strategic importance of keeping a fascist out of office that will not only be worse on the issue they care about most but also worse on every other issue.
     
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  13. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

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    Judging by the people who gets elected, this is probably where I should post the most :whylie:
     
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  14. srsbsns
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    Aug 26, 2024
    "Look, I don't support genocide, so I won't vote for the party that tells Israel to tone it down, who cares if it helps the guy who wants support Israel even more."
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Aug 27, 2024
    Just mind boggling dumb. And then they wonder why the DNC didn't allow one of them to speak at their convention lol.
     
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  16. dna hits
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    Aug 28, 2024
    I may be doing an opening speech for Kamala in pa. My step into politics. It could happen and in the works, according to what her campaign told me.
     
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  17. hargydon
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    Aug 30, 2024
    No way you just posted a Contrapoints meme whilst calling me dumb. Nice rebuttal.

    “Keeping a fascist out” LOL the US is already a fascist state you stupid prick. Your country has slaughtered hundreds of millions of people around the world to maintain hegemony. That’s what you’re defending. You’re defending fascism whilst pointing the finger to Trump who’s only a problem for you lot because it’s bad for optics. He’s your scapegoat, & has been for almost a decade. YOU’RE never beating the allegations.
    I’m not the one that’s sucking the DNCs d-ck for giving lip service to “critics” of genocide whilst in the real world continuing to deliver weapons & aid to them, & back them internationally, even threatening international courts for doing their jobs like the rogue state gangsters your ruling class are.

    Woke genocide is still genocide.

    The fact that AOC hack had the audacity to mention trans people in the midst of all this shows how much brainrot you yanks actually possess, shame on you’s that fall for it, I know Engima plays dumb but some of you actually believe this s---. You are so detached from the destruction your people cause the world. It’s horrifying.

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    ^these are the type of people that would tone police you getting angry at the Holocaust in the late 30s/early 40s. & if you complained about your state funding it they’d say “we don’t have time to stop that we need to stop the fascist!!”

    This is you guys:


    Harm reduction in action folks:

    https://jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-816355

    US sends 500th aircraft to Israel as airlifts of weapons & equipment continue:

    Since October 7, the Biden administration has sent Israel over 50,000 tons of military equipment, both offensive and defensive.
     
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  18. Marsh
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    Marsh Rosi Season Coming

    Aug 31, 2024
    Latinos 4 Trump

     
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  19. srsbsns
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    Aug 31, 2024
    Since you mentioned holocaust … remind me again, how did it end? Due weirdos who complained about the fascist, imperialist and racist US getting into Europe's business and that it would be hypocritical to stop Adolf while US business dealt with Germany and?

    "The victory of the imperialists of Great Britain and France would be not less frightful for the ultimate fate of mankind than that of Hitler and Mussolini. Bourgeois democracy cannot be saved. By helping their bourgeoisie against foreign fascism, the workers would only accelerate the victory of fascism in their own country. The task posed by history is not to support one part of the imperialist system against another but to make an end of the system as a whole." From Forth International. Sounds familiar, eh? Wonder how many more millions would've died if scum like that had any power.
     
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  20. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Aug 31, 2024
    Do you think all the major western countries are fascist? The U.K., Germany, France, Canada, etc?

    I'm not defending anything. Whatever weird conception of fascism you use is besides the point I was making. A Harris administration would be far better than a Trump administration. You cannot wiggle around that underlying fact. Things could absolutely be worse off for a lot of the working class/disenfranchised people you claim to care so much. Apparently your ideological purity is more important than actually defending/improving the livelihoods of those folks.

    You understand that your politics is not popular--right? A vast majority of the American public does not adhere to your politics. Once you can accept that, you might be able to stop blaming everyone else, and start focusing on changing minds, and working with folks that actually have some common ground with you lol. AOC understands this. Bernie Sanders understands this. That's why they yield the power/influence that they do.

    Chronically online leftists like you will *never* yield any political power if you maintain this ideological purity bs. You will forever remain a small political fringe group with no influence on actual policy making. Maybe that's really all you care about though lol. Viral tweets and likes so you can pat yourselves on the back.
     
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