J. Cole Nation: Chat Thread

Started by Mike Tyson, Dec 23, 2014, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. NoRoleModelz
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    Also yall see the full Bibliography in the Off Topic section for us. These guys are obsessed i had no idea they cared that much about us lmao
     
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  2. NoRoleModelz
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    https://x.com/talkofthecharts/status/1894962160243298801

    Kinda dope a song like this charting when its not meant for that
     
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    :coleshh:
     
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  4. Whitney Michelle
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    cLOUDs sounds so good in the car. It gets louder when he says loud lol
     
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  5. Pazuzu
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    But he backed out of “beef!” He should’ve stayed in and called his friend names! Lost all respect for the guy. Therefore whatever he puts out is mid and you’re a glazer.
     
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    Wow man, I didn’t know what I said bothered you this much. I wasn’t even trying to upset you, that’s the crazy part.
     
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  7. Ripper Roo
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    Clouds is a 6/10 song to me. Read it and weep.
     
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    Flip that 6 upside down.
     
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    Nah, this ain’t the Drake thread.
     
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    7 minute drill was actually a great response and a much better diss than Kendrick ever gave Cole with his cornball unwarranted jabs. I also think Cole is a better lyricist at the end of the day, but pretending he's not a p---- for taking the diss back when he should have kept it and gone farther is the definition of glazing
     
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  11. NoRoleModelz
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    Crazy. Did it go over your head or did you not listen to it properly. The rapping is crazy unless rap really not about the rhymes and bars anymore or what. That was a top tier MC verse.
     
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    With lines like “Dodge shells, collect coins like I'm Mario” none of this s--- is going over any actual real hip hop fan’s head, be real. The rhyme scheme carries this song. He’s not saying much of anything impressive or clever or substantive. There’s no deep layers to unpack here, dude. If anything, the flow being the same the whole song gets boring and annoying which definitely isn’t helped by the rhyme scheme everyone is gushing over. People saying this is verse of the year are out of their minds. Plus, I don’t know why y’all acting like 6/10 is a bad score, that’s literally above average.

    I hope you know this is why Cole’s fanbase (not just his, a lot of rap fanbases are like this like Eminem’s) is looked at as cringe. Y’all act like you’re some highly intelligent beings that were born on some alien planet that taught the ancient arts of hip hop. It’s just embarrassing. Whenever someone criticizes a song and your go-to is “the bars went over your head” you are just confirming yourself to be the ultimate cringelord.

    Don’t get me wrong, there’s some cool punchlines here and there in this song that casual rap or pop fans might not understand. But I’m not a casual. Some of y’all’s heads are in the cLOUDs for thinking this is the best song ever made. It’s fine if you like the song, but d---.
     
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    Comments say he’s on another level. He don’t miss. He is at it again. No other rappers want none.

    Good song and all but his fans…oh my, his fans are acting like he’s the messiah of rap…

    His fans love his work. Can you imagine? The audacity of those people to say his music is so dope.

    :jordanlaff:
     
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    Making valid points about billionaire greed and AI :emoji_x:

    Boogers in chains and repeatedly saying peekaboo:clap::clap::emoji_raised_hands:
     
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    That’s fine.
    They should stop doing that.
    That’s fine and all but are they saying it’s verse of the year, song of the year, etc.? If so they are out of their minds. See what happens when you attack points I never made? I never said fans can’t love someone’s work. I’ve made it pretty clear I’m against acting like everything is the best thing ever made, there’s a difference. I’m also against immediately dismissing anyone who didn’t LOVE it as being someone who didn’t understand the bars. That’s the type of self-important, pretentious bs people try to accuse me of.
    You’re comparing 2 completely different songs with 2 completely different objectives, this point is invalid. Also, I just wanna point out that Y’ALL are the ones who keep bringing up Kendrick yet I’M supposed to be the Kendrick glazer:') lmao when Kendrick said “I’m doin' what COVID did, they’ll never get over it” he was clearly talking about people like you:') you’re forever going to be a salty b---- towards Kendrick.

    So many of your posts in this COLE thread lately have been about KENDRICK. You look at everything Kendrick’s been achieving and secretly in your head you’re like, “why couldn’t that be Cole?!?!?:emoji_sob::emoji_sob::emoji_sob:” But you’ll never admit it:') I know this because when GNX came out yall were like “AW MAN IF COLE DID THIS HE’D GET CLOWNED”:'):'):')

    As soon as cLOUDs came out your nerdy, hoity-toity ahh probably immediately compared it to every GNX song in a listen through and said “yup, cLOUDs is better than this song:emoji_point_up::emoji_nerd:” “yup, cLOUDs is better than this song:emoji_point_up::emoji_nerd:” “yup, cLOUDs is better than this song:emoji_point_up::emoji_nerd:”. It’s just hilarious to see that y’all are actually everything you try to accuse me of. Projecting at its f---ing finest. That’s nothing new on this forum though. Also, I know these emojis are making you SEETHE right now:'):'):'):'):'):'):'):'):'):'):'):'):')
     
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    Never said this was the best song ever made or some deep thought process you gotta go though but you called it a 6 lol. On the first few listens you wont be able to catch everything is what i meant but the bars go crazy, the rhyme scheme goes crazy, and the flow is insane, and how he connects concepts and the wordplay is top tier. So if you fail to recognize that its comes off as hater-ish or means you didnt bother to listen... or as Cole would say, "you hated it before you played it, i already forgave you."

    As for your other statement, i dont really think that way, lots of rappers make great music, people have different tastes. For me, i ain't trying to spend a few days trying to study a song or album but i'm sure there are people out there like you who do. I dont think most Cole fans care that much about that s---, especially people in this thread. Cole fans just enjoy the music and a lot of peoples comments sound like hate more than actual fair criticism.

    All good bro, maybe it's not your cup of tea, i remember you said you did like GNX so maybe that style of artistic rap is your thing, for me it's not. I'm more of a fan of MC's so Kendricks older music resonated with me more.
    Outside of Reincarnated i like Clouds more than all of the tracks on GNX.
     
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    If you don't think Kendrick is the best your opinion is wrong bro.. didnt you know thats how it works outside of this thread lmao
     
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    He should have adlib “Get it?” Then maybe he be a Rap God.
     
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    I thought the never get over it bar was cuz he was a Midget.
    Ok I’ll go back to the Eminem thread before my re-----tion infects the Cole Stan’s too
     
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    What score would satisfy you? 6/10 is above average. It’s not a bad song.
    There’s some cool bars here and there but I disagree
    I agree
    I disagree. It’s dope at first, but the fact that he didn’t switch the flow up after a while as well as not having many bars that really impressed me kinda bores me after a while.
    I don’t hate it though, I just don’t love it. I think he could’ve done better. I almost like the song, but he could’ve added more impressive bars, he could’ve switched up the flow, he could’ve added more of his personality to it. To me, this song really lacks his personality. I feel like this song could’ve came from almost any rapper and it wouldn’t make a difference. There’s nothing uniquely J. Cole about it.

    It’s a lyrical exercise type of song but he’s already made that type of song in a better way like on The Off Season. I like s--- off the off season way better than this. I’m not saying he has to make off season 2, I’m just saying that he’s done this better before. Maybe not a better rhyme scheme, but he was overall more entertaining before. Just because I don’t love this song doesn’t mean I’m a Cole hater. I just think he can do better and I want to see him do better.
     
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