Eminem No Apologies (Jeff Bass involvement debate)

Started by Godlys, Dec 17, 2025 at 8:42 PM, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. M Solo
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    Dec 19, 2025 at 8:03 PM
    Good s--- bro thanks so much
     
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  2. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Dec 19, 2025 at 8:05 PM
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    Couldn't agree more. It's fun to sit there and kind of picture it on the beat though. And his rhyme scheme really is pretty incredible now that you pointed it out.

    I love this kind of stuff so much fun though. Any highlights that you thought were in the tracker? I had a little bit of time to look through it this morning and I think I will pay a lot of money for most of the pre-2007 stuff. It doesn't matter how good he gets going forward and he'll never touch that magic again in my opinion and it really takes me back to being a young guy.

    Did the Strange guy getting in trouble essentially and leaks going forward or are there still group buys out there and what have you?
     
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    Dec 19, 2025 at 8:21 PM
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  4. Godlys
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    Dec 19, 2025 at 10:43 PM
    As it turns out, he explained the pun of NF. WOW! Now respectfully, please stop bitching about something that takes people like me (with no editing skills or resources) two seconds to press a button and see what he said on my post.
     
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  5. John Lennons Ghost
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    Dec 19, 2025 at 11:02 PM
    I noticed there’s a few apparent unreleased tracks from the 8 Mile OST era. “Drug Culture”
    Track originally slated for 8 Mile OST per a DJ Pizzo post in July 2002. Mentioned alongside 8 Mile and another unreleased track, Gangsta Rap.
    and “Gangsta Rap”
    Track originally slated for 8 Mile OST per a DJ Pizzo post in July 2002. Mentioned alongside 8 Mile and another unreleased track, Drug Culture. Features Dr. Dre and Nate Dogg. This song was also mentioned seperately on a usenet post with a tracklist for Detox.

    These would be very interesting to hear considering they would have been recorded around the same me as Lose Yourself and 8 Mile Road.

    I don’t know who actually runs the tracker but I also think they should add the version of SFTM that possibly exists somewhere of Jeff Bass playing the outro solo instead of Joe Perry. Bass said in an interview that Eminem was initially reluctant to let Perry do the solo because he already liked Jeff’s solo so much.

    It also claims Ricky Ticky Tock originated during 8 mile sessions too, which I think is very plausible and makes sense.

    There’s a date for Love You More, which is 12.27.02, which is interesting. I had heard before it was recorded in late 02. Still makes me wonder what other album tracks he was working on around that time that we haven’t heard, surely it was more than just We As Americans and those Benzino disses. Joe Strange apparently found something called Never Gonna Leave dated 3.20.03. There’s also another song saved as “Sad as f---” from 10.16.03

    I’d say it’s way less likely we will see more leaks after that happened with strange. The vault will be more tightly sealed than ever, so the only stuff we have a chance of hearing is the stuff that’s already slipped out there. I think the @Big Monkey was moving a little bit between those leaker circles, so he could probably answer that better than me.
     
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  6. Spatula
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    Spatula 'Til I was 11 I bed wetted

    Dec 20, 2025 at 3:18 AM
    I told you that in private.
     
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    Spatula 'Til I was 11 I bed wetted

    Dec 20, 2025 at 3:19 AM
    Maybe he does alongside of saying "I didnt die, I think"
     
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 12:23 PM
    Never tell a monkey private info
     
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 12:24 PM
    The female vocal from Love Me is a keyboard sample, I forget which one so Spend Some Time might be the same.

    There are 4 more songs he recorded with Dre for Encore which haven't been released.
     
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  10. John Lennons Ghost
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 1:53 PM
    Probably best they stay in the vault. And yeah makes sense that Love Me and Spend Some Time are both vocal samples, especially now that we know they were made around the same time. Guessing it was from one of Restos keyboards. I just thought 25 years later somebody would have found it then by now or re-used them, like the “Ahh” vocal in Nellys Dilemma.
     
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 2:03 PM
    You can hear it here at 5.01, it's called Forever on the Roland VP 9000

     
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  12. John Lennons Ghost
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 2:43 PM
    Interesting. Good work Craze.
     
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 5:57 PM
    I can't say much more than I did in my last post on this (in Zeb's Proof thread) because I honestly don't know. After all the leaks I asked my contact if there was a chance there would be more someday and he said something to the effect that it was very unlikely any time soon but for reasons which suggested to me that Strange wasn't the only one with unreleased material to sell, so who knows down the road. When SFTL3 leaked I was a lot less hyped than most people because I knew it meant no "motherload" or MMLP era songs that year, because "Some dickwad who was formerly in the buy is trying to sell the [SFTL3] songs 'cause he's broke. We thought about buying them off him, but we don't know if he'd scam us. He's a bit of a loose canon. If these songs leak, the buy is over, end of discussion".
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    "Angry Blonde" was one of the songs from the MMLP tape that was supposed to leak in early 2025. Btw M Solo it turned out this was the guy who made that 2006 snippet you asked me about last year LOL. (I assume he doesn't mind me posting these screenshots now, a full year later, but if he does I'll delete them.)
     
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  14. John Lennons Ghost
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 6:06 PM
    Where/who was this “motherload” coming from and what was the price being asked?
     
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    Spatula 'Til I was 11 I bed wetted

    Dec 20, 2025 at 6:15 PM
    couple of songs leaking is a leak, it happens. hundreds of songs leaking is horrible. this wouldn't be right. as much as I would want to hear Relapse 2, this would be an attack on Eminem.
     
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 6:25 PM
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 6:35 PM
    Good questions. He was sparing with details, including those, and I didn't press him for more, being satisfied with getting to hear snippets. I generally take the information he did share at face value, since not only did he send genuine snippets (of SFTL3 songs) but the entire 05 Antichrist before it leaked publicly. He seemed kinda standoffish after I dissed his friend Emball again, post-SFTL3, and I haven't heard from him in almost a year. But I'm pretty sure he still browses this forum. If so I'm hoping he asks me to redact these posts, in a similar vein to how he first reached out to me here requesting that I redact my comments about the snippets being real, since that would tell me there's at least some hope of private buys starting up again.
     
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  18. John Lennons Ghost
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    Dec 20, 2025 at 6:51 PM
    Lol, don’t be such a f---ing p---- Spatch. Eminem hasn’t got long left to live. Hundreds of songs leaking would be amazing, almost like a “I’m sorry” for putting out all that s-----y music to us for 16 years.

    Plus, all the good stuff in the leaks we will hear eventually anyway. It just means we would get to hear them 10-20 years earlier and there would be no conniving evil Jew somewhere making money from it. (Unless the leaker himself is Jewish).
     
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    Spatula 'Til I was 11 I bed wetted

    Dec 21, 2025 at 2:39 AM
    Its not right. This Spatula will not stand for it.
     
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