May 16, 2015 tldr; I'm 99% certain it's not real. @Michael Scott and @rapmuzik were not trolling, it was a mistake. It is partially my fault. @rapmuzik mentioned in the kik chat that he possibly had some old TES demos he DL’d off Limewire in 2002-2003. We were all intrigued, obviously, as anyone who was alive at the time knows there was a bunch of weird s--- on Limewire and RM is a good dude who wouldn’t make such things up. He sends Without Me/Sing For the Moment to @Michael Scott to verify. MS thinks they are real. I ask to be sent them to verify as well. I express doubts at first, because the production didn't sound that different to me, but after hearing the super loud “b----” ad-lib on SFTM (it’s been awhile since I’ve heard SFTM and the ad-lib is VERY low so I never noticed it), I think they might be legit, but I say we have to be 100% certain before we share publicly. Topic gets made while I was asleep. I was under the impression that the third verse of My Dad’s Gone Crazy was different lyrically, not production-wise (I had only heard Without Me/SFTM), so I was OK with it being made because I thought that confirmed it. I confirm that SFTM sounds different in the topic. Later I ask to get sent My Dad’s Gone Crazy because it was stated it is the most different. I listen and the third verse is the same (as I said, for some reason I misread and thought MS said the verse itself was different). The beat doesn't seem at all different to me. My original thoughts about the tracks is that someone had just attempted to isolate some layers, which is why the adlibs are prominent, some of the layers are turned down, and some of them are turned up so they sound like they hit harder. I only have rudimentary audio-editing skills (ie, self taught from f---ing around in garageband), but I made a comparison for SFTM. It's not perfect because I have s--- skills, but you can see how s--- like this can be isolated by someone who knows what they're doing: 1. Original 2. Alleged "Rough" version 3. Version I created from the original: edit: vocaroo doesn't work here a lot of the time so paste this if the above doesn't work: Code: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1xqoG1AWXyt There's nothing *actually* different about these tracks (at least the ones I have heard). The layers are just f----- with which is part of the reason it's so low quality and also slowed down. There's nothing present on these songs not present on the original tracks as far as I can tell. The layers are just turned up or down. That's why the thunder and weird UFO noises are so loud on My Dad's Gone Crazy. It's why the ad-libs/guitars are so loud on SFTM. Anyway, please don't blame @rapmuzik or @Michael Scott. I thought it might be real at one point too, I figured it was just an almost completed version someone recorded during a listening sesh. It's easy to get overexcited and let the hype blind you, especially considering how s--- Em is now and how much we would all love to hear new material from his prime. But in the internet age where people are able to make very realistic fakes and there are people who take hours out of their day just to troll people into thinking they have exclusives for literally zero benefit to themselves, you shouldn't post anything before 100% confirming it with multiple people. For future unreleased music you want to possibly share or verify: obviously, contact @Koolo and/or another moderator to help verify it. When someone shared fake chance snippets, I was able to deconfirm it in less than an hour, and it only took that long because he was drawing it out for a long time (all I had to do was post the lyrics in the topic for people to deconfirm and use soundhound to recognize the beat is from a different song). I would have been able to do this one faster if I wasn't out of town at a family's house who has s---/limited internet. Anyway, sorry for the confusion guys. If you want to blame anyone, blame me. Never post leaks unless you're certain. Always get 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th opinions from knowledgable people you trust.
May 16, 2015 That sucks, but I still don't get why there was thought to be a new verse of my dad's gone crazy if it's really the same.
May 16, 2015 There was never any unheard verse. It was a misunderstanding I guess. Overexcited posts made it seem like it was an unheard cerse
May 16, 2015 Lol, well my point was I don't get how it can be a 'misunderstanding' as to whether or not a verse is new in this case, but fair enough. Not a big deal.
May 16, 2015 of course there's a chance. but chances are they could be fake i'm not gonna look into it more. it is what it is
May 16, 2015 no I mean, some of what Michael Scott posted may have been misunderstood. When he said "last verse is godly" he meant the beat. not a new verse
May 16, 2015 So what was with MS saying the verses on SFTM were rapped with more emotion or whatever? Was that true or was it the same?
May 16, 2015 oh idk. I'm not good with telling differences tbh. sftm's vocals just sounded more angry. again, this all kind of a big white area. bigcountry makes great points about how these are likely to be fake. but again, there is a chance they could be real. we won't ever know, to be 100% with you
May 16, 2015 u didn't say that Michael Scott did The beat is apocalyptic and godlike Feels like the end of the world when I'm listening to it @Michael Scott have u even listened to the original album
