Mar 25, 2017 Eminem rapped like a f---ing dog puppet and they played that s--- on the radio. That's how popular Eminem was.
Mar 25, 2017 Objectively Drake. Compare them to other artists of their eras. Don't try to compare sales, because it's never going to work. Market share-wise no artist has ever had a year as good as Drake's 2016. And no artist has ever had a decade as good as Drake's 2010's. Eminem's mainstream career has stretched over a longer period of time. 1999-present. As opposed to 2009-present. So he has had less of a "prime".
Mar 25, 2017 Also, their strategies are different. Drake, at any given time in the last 8 years, usually has multiple hit songs that are big at the same time. Eminem has fewer hits, and they don't overlap as often (especially in the 2000's decade). But the hits he does have are bigger on average.
Mar 25, 2017 Wayne didn't even have his own top 10 until 2008. This is why people should pay close attention to charting history and Wikipedia discography pages (the peak is half the story not the whole story). Stans and the culture re-write history, but the charts don't lie. Wayne was the "greatest rapper alive" in 06-08, but he didn't have any major (by which I mean Top 10) hits until Lollipop, which I'm faily certain was 2008. And after that, his success with IANAHB, IANAHB2, and even Rebirth, but most importantly Tha Carter IV, puts his overall success for the 2010's larger than his overall success for the 2000's.
Mar 25, 2017 He absolutely wasn't. What year do you think Eminem was at his "biggest"? I guarantee you it does not stack up to Drake's 2016 when looking objectively at the charts. What set of 5 years do you think Eminem was at his biggest? I guarantee you that there is no way it comes close to Drake's 2012-2016, when looking objectively at the charts.
Mar 25, 2017 Hate to say it, but it's Eminem, and it's not even close either. And that's to any rapper's popularity. He was in a class of his own from 00-02.
Mar 25, 2017 People in this thread citing RIAA and stuff. Yikes it hurts to see this level of incorrectness by such a large number of people. But whatever. I know you guys are also influenced by your personal opinion and by recency bias. And I know if there's ever a rapper bigger than Drake in the future (there probably will be) people will say "no way, he's not as big as Drake", lol.
Mar 25, 2017 It's easy to argue Drake is more popular today than Eminem because he's all over the radio. Reality is more people still know Eminem by name alone. Your grandmother doesn't know who Drake is but she probably knows who Eminem is. You said record sales don't mean anything and then argue that hit singles do? What kind of logic is that? If I never turn the radio on, I guess I don't know who's on it do I? Meanwhile, Eminem has actual numbers that, by definition, mean someone bought his product. Unless we are going to change the meaning of popular?
Mar 25, 2017 I can't remember what page but I did say #1 hip hop and #2 overall. Somewhere. Remind me did Eminem first album go #1? My name is peaked at #36
Mar 25, 2017 Well I do want to clarify that I'm talking about in terms of whose music is the most played, not in terms of who is the most famous. I do agree that Eminem is more famous than Drake. Google Trends can be used to prove that. But those are two different things. Compare... say... Flo Rida to Tyga. Nobody really gives a s--- about who Flo Rida really is, but his music is always popping. Tyga on the other hand, hasn't had a hit in years, but people still know who he is because he hangs out with the Kardashians. (Maybe a bad example, but was the first that popped into my head).
Mar 25, 2017 Trump is a good example. Everyone knows him but nobody likes him except for an extremely hardcore fanbase. Polls explicitly say he is NOT popular. Doesn't mean people forget who he is lmao I agree with you completely. Eminem is more famous and less popular.
Mar 25, 2017 And I didn't say sales don't matter. I said don't look at sales alone, and don't try to adjust them for deflation because you're never going to get anywhere navigating the many ups and downs of the sales industry. Look at the charts because they are more objective and clear. A week at #1 is a week at #1 (generally speaking). There have only been about 3 or 4 major changes in the 60 year history of the US charts, despite all the technological changes. Also, the charts take everything into account: radio, sales, and now streaming. RIAA doesn't even take into account radio, which was the most important factor in the 2000's.
Mar 25, 2017 That goes back to the old Chris Rock statement (Which oddly enough the video was taken down but his quote is still out there) “People get angry when you don’t mention Eminem,” he later said. “They really like, ‘Hey! Eminem’s one of the greatest.’ Okay! He’s good. I’m not a big ‘Stan’ guy. I like ‘Stan.’ I loved him on ‘Renegade.’ He’s great on ‘Renegade.’ I like him on a lot of stuff. I like ‘Stan’ but you don’t hear ‘Stan’ at the club, ever. Not any club I wanna be at. ‘It was hot last night and then they played “Stan.”‘ ‘What? Where were you? Did they play “Stan? Was it a remix or something?'” Obviously in public settings Drake is going to be played more because of todays culture I think comparing prime Eminem to Drake today is a flawed argument in itself tbh
Mar 25, 2017 Dude How many people already did that lol. Im not gonna go to wikipedia lookin for sales etc like dumb nerd. Prime eminem was huge. Drake is now too but literally everyone knew (and knows) marshall
