Eminem Putting the "Eminem-has-fallen-off-myth" to sleep

Started by larn, Dec 30, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Spatula
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    Spatula Relapse is a masterpiece

    Dec 30, 2015
    I've been listening to his new albums more than the old ones lately. Eminem may have lost the touch he once had, but he's still better than anyone else by far.
     
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  2. Michael Myers
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    Dec 30, 2015
    Again, that's fine. But like I said 90% of the people here agree he fell off so
     
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  3. hellblazer
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    Dec 30, 2015
    In my opinion, I like eminems new stuff just as much as his old stuff. I think his old stuff still has bad songs(not as many though) as he does now. He is not as good as he was 1999-2003 of course not. I think he is still one of the best rappers still in the game, I liked the accent's on relapse btw.
    He probably cant do the accent's anymore not sure if it would suit him but if he can bring his old accent back? Like even 2005ish when it was alot lower toned then 1999 Slim.
     
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  4. Lucy
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    Dec 30, 2015
    Eminem has fallen off. MMLP 2 is a bad album. He will never be as good as TES/MMLP/SSLP/Encore
     
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  5. fiddster
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    Dec 30, 2015
    tbh I think its been quite a good year for Em (at least a step in the right direction), he's probably put out more songs/features I like from him this year than he did the whole of 2011-2014
     
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  6. larn
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    larn I heard you're good with them soft lips

    Dec 30, 2015
    I hated the accents haha.
    What do you mean by his 2005 "accent" ?

    @fiddster thoughts on the hills ?
     
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  7. fiddster
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    Still really enjoy it, partly down to it being a remix of a good song, but ems verses are also good
     
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  8. NoLeakerHomie
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    Dec 30, 2015
    Bf6ep3qIMAAVXaU.jpg Notice the Marshal Mathers LP and Marshal Mathers LP 2 sales differential....27,000,000 for Pt 1 vs 3,000,000 for Pt. 2....

    He has not surpassed 20 million in album sales since ENCORE

    Eminem came out with a album in: 1995s infinite, 1997s SSEP, 1999s SSLP, 2000s TMMLP, 2001s DN , 2002s TES, 2004s Encore.... 7 albums in 9 years.....plus numerous guest feats.


    Eminem's new pace?: 2009s Relapse, 2010s Recovery, 2011s BME, TMMLP 2 2013... 4 in 9 years

    And his own words on the matter

    Rap god
    You get too big and here they come trying to
    Censor you like that one line I said
    On "I'm Back" from the Mathers LP
    One when I tried to say I'll take seven kids from Columbine
    Put 'em all in a line
    Add an AK-47, a revolver and a nine
    See if I get away with it now
    That I ain't as big as I was, but I'm


    All Fact!
     
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  9. larn
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    larn I heard you're good with them soft lips

    Dec 30, 2015
    @rapmusik this guy is spamming as you see and he's done it before.Please ban him from this thread so people can continue the debate
     
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  10. PiitaqL
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    Dec 30, 2015
    LTWYL wasnt bad... he tried a new sound and it succeed
     
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  11. NoLeakerHomie
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    Dec 30, 2015
    In Fact
    Combined sales of the marshal mathers lp 2, h--- the sequal, recovery, relapse, the re up, d12 world, encore, and the 8 mile soundtrack,
    eqauling 49 million in sales, 8 albums, get destroyed by the marshal mathers lp pt 1 and the eminem show by themselves, at 52,000,000 in sales.

    So 2 albums at 52 million, overshadowed 8 other later albums, which as a whole, stand at 49 million.

    If that is not a fall from fame, i dont know what is.
     
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  12. The Real Slim Shady
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    Dec 30, 2015
    MMLP2 is not a masterpiece. However, its not trash either. Shady XV on the other hand, isnt great.

    Bad Guy, Evil Twin, So Much Better, Brainless, Beautiful Pain, Groundhog Day, Legacy, Rap God, Rhyme or Reason - All great songs in my opinion. And as for Shady XV, Guts Over Fear is one of his best songs period.

    The singles for MMLP2 were admittedly quite poor though, minus Rap God which is one of the best and unexpected things Em has done in a long time. Headlights is great on paper, but his screaming delivery still f---ing baffles me, and iv never been a fan of the beat and hook. Berzerk's hook and beat are godly, but the verses are subpar, especially the second verse. Great video though lol. The Monster is actually a guilty pleasure of mine, cant fault it at all. And then there's Survival, which shouldn't of been on the album at all.

    One of the things that iv loved more than anything recently isn't Em's rapping, but his production. His beats have been on point for the last couple of years, especially on MMLP2, but also more recently on Yelawolf's Love Story album, on the song Heartbreak. That beat is f---ing brilliant, and it was actually recorded in Detroit with Em, and if you listen to the chorus (nearer the end of the song) you can actually hear tones in Yela's voice and certain adlib's that you just KNOW Em suggested. His verse on Best Friend was also amazing. So i would say his role as a producer has been significantly improving as of late, but there are still niggling factors in his own rapping delivery that alot of people are not liking.

    But as for me, i still think hes f---ing great (probably always will lol) although i do see and understand why other people are so critical of him since his return.
     
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  13. Him Shadow
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    Dec 30, 2015
    now this is a dumb post, who said that a man can't change his opinion, outlook views or even taste?
    ok, I used to hate on gay people now I'm a lot more tolerant that I used to be, does that make me a hypocrite in your opinion?

    you obviously don't get the Rap God line, he says that just because he recorded songs for example with Rihanna, people say that he went pop. "It's not hip hop, it's pop." - he mocks people who say it

    all of your points are...:trash:
     
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  14. PiitaqL
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    Dec 30, 2015
    CD SALES ARE NOT THE SAME AS THEY USED TO BE
     
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  15. larn
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    larn I heard you're good with them soft lips

    Dec 30, 2015
    @Him Shadow @PiitaqL stop replying to him he's a troll/spammer
    Just ignore him until @rapmusik[/USERm] or some mod bans him
     
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  16. GawDEDEDE
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    Dec 30, 2015
    I mostly agree with you but there's no arguing that he's still not as good a musician as he once was. He doesn't necessarily have to be either, I still appreciate his content as much as anyone, but I won't lie to myself and say he hasn't fallen off to some degree.
     
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  17. boyz n the suburbs
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    Did you seriously just say...that the MMLP2 is... a masterpiece?
    :ummmm::lmaooo:
    Definitely disagree with that. It's a decent album, but far far far from a masterpiece.

    Lyrically, he's gotten better.
    His execution however, hasn't.
    Shady XV and Southpaw some decent contributions from Em but for the most part, those projects are trash.
     
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    Dec 30, 2015
    :bookah:
     
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  20. Jerome
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    This list is so wrong omg.
    Relapse sold maybe 4.5-5 Million at best
    Recovery 8-8.5Million

    And MMLP sold 5.5 Million.

    Just sayin.
     
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