Mar 8, 2016 You're essentially arguing cyclically doesn't exist. On top of that, there are many, many alternate reasons other than the President that the stock market fluctuates. You're picking random points in time and trying to paint a full picture. It doesn't work that way. Most of the success of the economy recently is because of low interest rates set by the Federal Reserve and a boom in energy, which democrats have actually attempted to regulate more closely. Unemployment is low because people are dropping out of the workforce, simply a generational factor. Obamacare created jobs, but mostly part time. Does the economy tend to show signs of greater improvement under Democrats as of late (i.e. Past 20 years) absolutely, however, simply contributing that to the President is superficial. There will be another recession during the next Presidency and interest rates will rise and fall again. Does the President have some influence on the economy? Yes, but not as much as you think and I wouldn't attribute a lot of the success to one person or party. That's my point. And if you care to know what I think of Donald Trump just go to the thread where you responded to my criticism of him.
Mar 8, 2016 Let's not act like democratic presidents haven't engaged in shady practices throughout history.
Mar 8, 2016 They've been overwhelming better for America for the last 50+ years... and now the Republicans are about to nominate a reality TV game show host who uses White Nationalism, vulgarity and fascism as a campaign.
Mar 8, 2016 Concerning the first sentence I would have to disagree, and not in regards to the economy. I understand that most view republicans as war mongers and racist, but democratic presidents and politicians have also engaged in the same activities, but yet avoid being labeled as such.
Mar 8, 2016 Okay. Obama has been President for 7 years. How is he a war monger and racist? How was Clinton a war monger and racist?
Mar 8, 2016 Let's do a rundown since 1900. Republicans Roosevelt - Protected the environment, regulated food/drugs, broke up major corporations, established labor laws, strengthened national defense. Taft - Was kind of the black sheep, overshadowed by Roosevelt. He didn't do a ton, but he did continue the trustbusting. Harding - He was kinda meh but not as bad as historians suggest. He at least tried to stop lynching, and he started up womens health centers. Coolidge - Sat on his a--- and did nothing while the agriculture industry was in the shitter and the Great Depression was about to happen. Hoover - A little underrated. He wasn't a good president, but he worked harder as president to fix the depression than people give him credit for. Eisenhower - Warned against the military industrial complex, had the interstate highway system, started nasa, kept welfare programs funded while reducing the debt. Nixon - Mixed bag. He had the war on drugs, illegal bombing of cambodia. He also had environmental protection, diplomacy with china. He also wasn't a dumbass, a big accomplishment for a Republican. Ford - Didn't do a ton, but didn't cause any damage either. his loss of the 1976 election represented the rise of crazy ignorant republicans. Reagan - A small-government conservative who tripled the national debt.. He also incarcerated blacks for crack possession while allowing guerillas to ship tons of coke in the country. HW Bush - He was actually a smart practical guy. He was able to compromise and he behaved like an adult. We need that today. W Bush - Iraq cost us $2 trillion dollars and so many lives. f--- him. That's 2 great, 1 good, 2 mixed, 3 okay and 3 awful. Democrats Wilson - was racist, and not a very good commander. but he laid out a vision for world peace that shaped things. Roosevelt - resolved two of the top three greatest crises in american history. need i say more? Truman - swiftly ended ww2. kept europe safe during the cold war. desegregated the military. Kennedy - he had more mistresses than legislative accomplishments #yeahisaidit Johnson - was the best president of all time and the worst president of all time simultaneously. Carter - super underrated. kept debt low. the only president in a long time who didn't bomb any children overseas. when our environment goes to total s---, were gonna wish we re-elected carter. Clinton - was competent, good at compromise. not perfect, but more accomplishments than detriments. Obama - made mistakes, but i'd take him over W Bush any day. id take an imperfect health care reform bill over absolutely nothing, which is what most presidents have done. So lets say we had 3 great, 2 good, 1 okay, 2 mixed.
Mar 8, 2016 Carter was super underrated and way over hated. He called our dependence on foreign oil a "clear and present danger to America" practice energy conservation and even put solar panels ontop of the White House. Reagan took the solar panels off and armed and trained the Middle East to k---. After his Presidency Carter built houses for poor people. After his Presidency Dubya got an iPhone app that taught him how to paint like an 11 year old.
Mar 8, 2016 Obama has engaged in shady practices but I wouldnt label him as a war monger or a racist, although he has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president which most liberals would say is racist if done under a republican. I also wouldnt apply those labels to Clinton although he did have his faults as well. When it comes to war, Democrats had a heavy hand in the Vietnam war, Kennedy even authorized operation ranch hand despite the US government knowing how toxic the herbacides would be, the Vietnamese are still feeling the effects of this. Hiroshima was also bombed under a Democrats watch. Concerning racism it's hard to forget Democrats involvement with Jim Crow laws or when democratic governor George Wallace attempted to deny blacks an education. I know most of these examples aren't very recent but it's what I could think of rite off and I'm sure there's more.
Mar 8, 2016 LBJ changed the Democratic and Republican Parties forever when he signed the Civil Rights Act. He sacrificed the American South for the good of country over party and Nixon and Republican racists developed the Southern Strategy. The hardcore Dixiecrats purged from the Democrats and joined the Republicans and an almost even split of black vote got completely on board with the Democrats. It has been a whole different ballgame since 1964.
Mar 8, 2016 LBJ did a great service when he signed in the civil rights bill, however it is rather deplorable that he was so comfortable referring to blacks as n-----s.
Mar 8, 2016 Nice deflection. This is a perfect example of how sticking with the party line is so hypocritical.
Mar 8, 2016 Guess what, Blair... every white person said "n----" in 1964. One of those people was a President who said "n----" and ended segregation.
Mar 8, 2016 Blair, I feel real bad that every white person including democrats used the word "n----" from the time when they owned slaves until it failed out of vogue... after a Democratic President who also used it signed the Civil Rights Act. I'm not going to make excuses for any Democratic elected official who used it They weren't enlightened and they didn't use empathy for black peoplethat would have showed them the error of the ways. I wish they did and I kinda hate them for not. Did you know that 40 years after LBJ left office the Republican Governor of Texas, Rick Perry owned a ranch that was called "Niggerhead"? It was named after a big black flat rock that stood at the gate of its property. That's what Perry and his family and associates called it to the mid 2000's with out any shame. The rock had "Niggerhead" written on it in paint by its owner. There was no controversy about it until Rick Perry was the front runner for the GOP nomination in 2012. 40 years after the n---- saying President who did more for black Americans since Lincoln (who also used the word "n----"), left office... You really want to challenge me on this?
Mar 8, 2016 I see you that you included the damage incured during the Iraq war. Would you care to also include the damage done in other wars as well including those authorized by democratic presidents or are we just gonna ignore them? Just playing devils advocate here.
Mar 8, 2016 Just wanted to see if you were willing to criticize a democrat without justifying it by saying a republican did the same thing. You still kind of did, but condemned the action of both.
Mar 8, 2016 I would say we have had a mixed bag of presidents over the last 100 years.. Under Obama and bush government spending has gone way up and the size of the government has gone way up. It's obvious that big government doesn't work.. And the whole unemployment is a false narrative. Gdp growth is abysmal and those jobs we create aren't high paying jobs.. Obama has not been a good president and neither has bush Sorry to narrow it down to them 2
Mar 8, 2016 Well, Progressives progress... that's our ideology. Conservatives worship the Founding Fathers. They'll argue that this is a Christian Nation because the Founding Fathers were Christian just like they are. Most of the Founding Fathers owned people... and some, like Thomas Jefferson r---d the people he owned. Is that who you want to line up with morally?
Mar 8, 2016 Bush43 grew the Federal Government by 33%. Obama has reduced the size of government. Since Obama came into office the amount of government jobs has been reduced and the amount of private sector jobs has increased.
