Apr 2, 2018

The fact that people are comparing Relapse and Revival is embarrassing. Enimen would've wished that Revival had half of the quality Relapse had.

Like seriously Relapse had Same Song & Dance, Stay Wide Awake, Deja Vu, My Darling, Careful What you Wish For, Buffalo Bill and Taking My Ball. Even his s--- songs of that album like Underground and Crack A Bottle are better than 70% of Revival. Thinking that Revival is better than Relapse is disgusting in every way.

 

Apr 3, 2018

Nah. It's treated about right. In fact I think its Metacritic score is a little generous. 40/100 would be closer.

It's rightly treated as the confused, desperate, shameless thing that it is.

The unjust ratings of his albums I would say are

- MMLP. Obviously considered a classic and maybe the meta score of 78 is just dated... but, that should be like 90s like modern day overly acclaimed (COUGHKANYE) s--- which is much weaker artistically.

- TES... Not as ingenious as MMLP but it doesn't really get its due credit as the classic it is

- Relapse : 59/100 on Meta is stupid. Well, not stupid, I get it, it's polarizing... I guess from my perspective 70s would feel right though. But, for it to be near the same response as Revival? f--- no. Relapse is consistent as f---. Revival is depression.

Em absolutely deserves every bit of response he's getting for Revival. I felt a bit annoyed at the Relapse response... because I felt it wasn't deserved. He had an artistic vision, in the sense it was organic and a sound 'just happened' and he went for it... and I feel the response to it f----- him up and has made him an insecure second-guessing mess ever since, and in reality... it's one of the things which has led us to Revival.

This is a good thing. It's a good thing that Revival got this reaction. As it's not pure, it's not organic, it's not a vision. Em and Mr Porter LITERALLY said their MO was trying to please everybody. Which is just f---ing r-----ed, and absolutely embarrassing. Em grabbed huge names, for the sake of it, made some obvious, predictable cliched' mega-mega mainstream hit attempts, about 10,000 love songs, s-----y pop beats... it's an album of personal and commercial desperation = "do you like this? this? maybe this? please this? here's something for you, and you and you, hopefully this is a hit! another formula, hit please!" It's pathetic.

Now that he's heard loud and clear people are sick of his bs, maybe he'll be pissed off enough to finally not care and create something sincere again. Though, I sincerely doubt it.

 

Apr 3, 2018

 

Apr 3, 2018

Higher highs than Relapse?

Maybe Arose, maybe Believe...

But there's really nothing which competes with say Stay Wide Awake. That is just unique and amazing on every level.

 

Apr 3, 2018

Amen.

 

Apr 3, 2018

Having a unique writing style and delivery and actually a conceptual backdrop... Does.

Its execution does. Its level of detail, the care to carry a sound and a theme... Does.

Sticking random a--- tracks together which could be on different albums, for different eras... Does not.

 

Apr 3, 2018

What are you cringing at exactly?

'He's a deranged drug addict who's Relapsed and is on a rage / obsessed with dark s---'... He's in-character. You're cringing as if that's random or something.

No different to when he was in-character on MMLP as 'the homophobic Mr evil I am whatever you say I am'

It's a lot better than "Here's a song with Beyonce! Love me? Okay here's a 'hard s--- talking track' for you, and a gay Pink love song for yoouuuu, and here's a sweety pop for you, and you, love me? This? Okay this?'. Pathetic.

 

Apr 3, 2018

Revival is Eminem’s 4th- 5th best album with Recovery.

 

Apr 3, 2018

Sorry this album sucks balls. Only songs worth anything are Believe, In Your Head, Arose and Chloresceptic Remix verse. None of which are a 10/10. Maybe they just sound amazing and they are really average the same way an average chick looks really hot in a photo next to fat b------s.

 

Apr 3, 2018

d--- even Eminem stans starting to switch up now

 

Apr 3, 2018

EminemBase, you might be right that he didn’t complete something real and he tried to please everyone. But it’s not like the album is full of bad songs. We have to give him credit for his rhyming. We take his lyrics for granted sometimes. There’s so many rappers out there who don’t rhyme well. You think Drake can make a song like “Offended?”

Also Walk on Water isn’t really bad. After a few months I realize that Eminem is telling the truth about how he’s frustrated with the fact people have such high expectations of him.

Now Encore has Big Weenie and a--- Like That. I don’t think Revival has any songs quite that bad.

Seems to me like the more time passes the worse yoI say it is. Next time are you gonna rage it a 25 out of 100?

 

Apr 3, 2018

No the album is full of bad songs actually

 

Apr 4, 2018

I always give him credit for his writing.

But if the music is cliche, pandering and all mixed up and s-----y, with a--- hooks.. who cares. Makes it even more frustrating because then the writing is wasted. Like, I'm annoyed "Arose" is wasted on Revival. "Believe"... Wasted.

Writing hasn't been his problem, so it's not a surprise that he's rhyming well. Writing was only a problem on... Encore because he was bored and uninspired and Recovery because he was terrible.

But since then I've found his writing to be superb. But I'm sick of being given s-----y albums now. Compromised, s-----y albums. Which could have been great, if only he had any integrity and balls left.

 

Apr 4, 2018

I wish Em could read Embase posts

 

Apr 4, 2018

I kinda see what you mean though about Revival having a different sound to each track. When I first listened I was excited. Because we had Believe folllwed by Chloro folllwed by Untouchable. I was driving and thinking in my car saying “Wow Eminem is going hard!”

Then River came... and I was like wtf? This sounds different. And I thought maybe he just just threw it in there. And then Remind Me came. And I was like wait a minute, why is he doing this? Then pop song after pop song... then Framed and Offended. I was kinda confused. Like why did it sound like this and then pop?

 

Apr 5, 2018

Some of Revival is listenable but a majority of it is not. Relapse is a way better album

 

Apr 5, 2018

I only listen a few of Revival on repeat: Believe, River, Chloraseptic Remix, Framed and Castle.

 

Apr 5, 2018

Same but I also listen to Tragic Endings

 

Apr 5, 2018