Politics S.80's Trump Haters, Come Here And Take Your L

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  1. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Nov 9, 2016
    i might have! knowing what i know now--chiefly about comey, but globally too, sure--maybe clinton should not have been the nominee. but your whole thing here is that you're trying to frame it as ironic/me as hypocritical for scoffing at your healthcare views. but i supported the sanders healthcare plan then and i do today. so really, what're you doing?
     
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  2. Chad Warden
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    Chad Warden As Ballin As Possible

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  3. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 9, 2016
    I already said i'd take my L in the last thread. I was wrong. Almost everyone was wrong.
     
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  4. TheConstant
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    Nov 9, 2016
    Respect that brother, a lot of people wouldn't have said that
     
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  5. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 9, 2016
    I'm still in disbelief tbh lol
     
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  6. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    Nov 9, 2016
    you the goat fr
     
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  7. Chad Warden
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    Chad Warden As Ballin As Possible

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  8. Mikey
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    Nov 9, 2016
    Trump just got racists on side & now probably has no plans to go through with it.




    Not much will change he probably just wanted the status of being president. The morons who fell for this must feel pretty stupid right now.
     
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  9. Goku187
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    Nov 9, 2016
    I have no problem "taking an L". I'm just like...too old to get proud about this sort of thing lol. Particularly because what happened was such a massive upset. Not in the popular vote (Hillary won by a margin the polls indicated she would) - but in the electoral college (I don't think there was a single poll that ever had Trump leading in Wisconsin...perhaps Michigan as well). I believed the polls were correct. They generally have been correct in my lifetime. There wasn't any reason to believe that my thought process was misguided - but at the end of the day it was! I was wrong. @lordkimura - as I've addressed, you got it right.

    My bigger worry, obviously, is with the country as a whole. This is not just some typical loss where I think my guy was better than your guy. I was not enamored with Hillary Clinton; I had strong desire for a candidate with less baggage, better messaging, and a more genuine nature. But she was undoubtedly qualified, capable, intelligent, and (in my eyes) right on many issues.

    On the other hand, we have President Elect Donald Trump.

    This is a man who consistently bullies others (see his Twitter account).
    This is a man with overwhelming arrogance (he constantly boasts of his own greatness).
    This is a man proud of his own ignorance (his lack of policy understanding is well documented).
    This is a man with many outgoing accusations of fraud and sexual assault (he will be in court later this month). The latter accusations corroborate HIS OWN WORDS, btw.
    This is a man who consistently pits Americans against each other (threats to deport Mexicans; threats to ban Muslims), often in ways that relate to their skin color or heritage.
    This is a man totally intolerant of dissent (some of the threats he has made regarding journalists and free speech are among the most terrifying to me personally).
    This is a man with reckless disregard for norms (he admits he plans to abandon our allies; he embraces war crimes casually).
    This is a man who sees no place for civility (he threatened to jail one opponent; he called another opponent's wife ugly).
    This is a man who lies, constantly, unapologetically - about big things (his support for the Iraq War), small things (his characterization of Obama's treatment of a protestor), and everything in between.

    These are all very bad traits if I'm looking to hire a part-time intern to fetch me coffee. They're horrific for a president of the United States. I can only hope that he has been acting as an entertainer and the gravity of the office changes him. There are signs that he could be pragmatic on policy (embrace for infrastructure spending; some support for entitlements in unexpected ways) - but I worry the GOP-controlled Congress will stifle that.

    I saw this described somewhere as a "primal scream" of an election - a message that the establishment isn't representative of the views of the electorate. I find that hard to square with Barack Obama's 56% approval rating, but I can still comprehend it, even if I disagree with it. What I find harder to get is that THIS man, this person with so many personal failings and flaws as a leader, is the one people saw as the solution. He had countless chances to demonstrate fitness for office throughout the campaign and he failed....often, and spectacularly. We will all be grappling with what this means for a long time, myself included. Anyone who says they know what the next four years looks like is lying to you. And I hope and pray he surprises me as POTUS just like he surprised me last night. But when I contemplate the man he has shown himself to be in the campaign, and the challenges that lie ahead, I have never been more scared for the future of my country.
     
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  10. Packman
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    Nov 9, 2016
    This post tho... this post is spot on
     
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  11. Lil Squeed
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    Lil Squeed French Montana Stan

    Nov 9, 2016
    d--- dude I read your post like this:

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  12. Kon
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    Kon

    Nov 9, 2016
    Trump's first 100 days agenda is out and wow what a shock, there's nothing about banning muslims or hating minority groups or anything like that.
     
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  13. Lamont
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    Nov 9, 2016
    why is that a shock

    hes a f---in showman
     
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  14. Kon
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    Kon

    Nov 9, 2016
    I was being sarcastic...

    Anyways all the anti-Trump stuff is a big reason why he won imo, people are sick of being called racists or idiots or being looked down upon for a different opinion. I think @theg said it like 6 months ago about how all this Trump hate will lead to him getting elected.
     
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  15. Kon
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    Kon

    Nov 9, 2016
    To add onto my last post, look up a guy on Facebook names Coop LoPresto and see his latest post, basically sums it up better than I can. I'd post it here but I'm on my phone.
     
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  16. Dislikeboy
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    Nov 9, 2016
    Trump is not going to bring in thousands and thousands of Muslims.
     
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  17. Saint
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    Nov 9, 2016
    why are you outright lying?

    it's just worded slightly differently
     
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  18. Dislikeboy
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    I think all @Kon was saying is Trump isn't the hateful racist he's been tar brushed as.
     
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  19. Saint
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    Nov 9, 2016
    no, what Kon said is
    it's right there
     
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  20. theg
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    theg got that pma

    Nov 9, 2016
    suspending immigration from areas they can't completely vet is not the same as banning muslims
    that's not a slight difference, either, that's a completely different thing
     
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