Nov 16, 2015

To an extent, I agree with you... with all allusions to the Holocaust and Japanese internment, #darfur etc.

Still, it's all worth acknowledging the Tsarnaevs applied for asylum in the US, citing fears of deadly persecution due to the family's ties to Chechnya. So it's not merely active terrorists, but allowing young men in who are angry, traumatized... and potentially radicalized. (Do we just let women in then orrrrrrr)

In seriousness, perhaps there should be some type of protocol which better encourages assimilation into the US. a job training, vocational program, idk

 

Nov 16, 2015

I don't understand bringing in refugees from another country and giving them housing while we have tens of thousands of homeless veterans that have risked their lives for this country and have not been given anything.

 

Nov 16, 2015

this is a serious issue, not your college roomate coming into town for the weekend. it's not as simple as "you have more room, get them to stay with you for a bit".

 

Nov 16, 2015

What's the point of an immigration process if we can't trust it to allow and disapprove people that don't belong in the country they are applying to become a citizen of?

Everyone talks about how America is equipped and able to process matters on a higher level than most countries, but to simply just say "no" without even considering the pros and cons seems a bit premature to me. No one likes terrorist attacks in the backyard of their own country, but don't let one or two events deter you away from trusting a process that our government made. If you don't like the process, don't complain about it, say or do something that will improve it.

 

Nov 16, 2015

because thinking that a bunch of neckbeards are going to stop a genuine terror cell from behind their computer screens doesn't deserve more thought.

 

Nov 16, 2015

I was just curious about what you guys think.
Sorry for going off topic.

 

Nov 16, 2015

i rly dont know what to think. you have to weigh the consequences of each option equally. im not going to pretend i know anything about american politics or even the economy or anything like that, however regardless of all outside variables you have two options.

one, you let them in. you're helping tens of thousands of innocent hard working people who need to get the f--- out of where they are right now, or they're going to die. you risk a radicalized refugee making it through, though and that puts the country at risk even if just a few of them are radicals or if they are posing as refugees and get in. is saving people in another part of the world really worth putting your own at risk?

and i realize that not everyone in syria is a terrorist. i'm not a racist, i understand it's a very small group of them, but a mass influx of syrian refugees has to make it easier for them to get in. 85,000 people and you really want to say not one bad guy is going to sneak his way through?

and i'm not going to pretend to know what goes on in the mind of a refugee either, but i'd have to imagine coming from what they're facing right now, being completely innocent (assuming 100% of them are not radicalized in any way) they are going to come to the states and still be treated like s--- by the american people because of isis. i dont know what it takes to be radicalized but i'd have to think if they were in america and being treated like s--- by americans due to islamophobia that would alienate them more and make the more susceptible to radicalization. especially the younger children/teenagers who don't understand what's going on or why they're being mistreated.

the other option, leave them. thousands of innocents will die and isis will have more fuel for recruitment, being able to say that americans and other western countries have shunned them and turned them away in their time of need and they all hate muslims and need to pay. it's alienating them again.

i dont think theres a clear cut answer tbh.

 

Nov 16, 2015

how does it feel to be on the losing side