Sep 17, 2017 Once again im not saying it is, I'm not even saying all the voters actually listened to the album but out of the people that DID vote the GENERAL CONSENSUS its one of the best albums.
Sep 17, 2017 Dude, you can keep running this stupid s--- 'round in circles about how something's magically a "classic" (or how that actually means, well, anything beyond relative popularity...) because of a consensus that isn't possible with such a divisive topic and the sheer amount of people that would have to be involved, and you'll still be wrong, and I'm not going to concede to your s-----y logic now or anytime in the future.
Sep 17, 2017 It makes sense if you think about how absolutely illogical it is to claim a consensus in your favor on a topic that it isn't possible to ever take a real, unbiased consensus on.
Sep 17, 2017 It's not s-----y logic, its just facts. Listen to what you're saying, you're saying their cannot be a majority opinion on something even when there is. That doesn't make any sense. You can say ''maybe illmatic isnt a classic because not every listener voted'' that's stupid logic, but that's true. But out of everyone that did vote, the GENERAL CONSENSUS is that its one of the best albums, it has universal acclaim therefore making it a CLASSIC. I feel like im teaching a child, this is very easy to understand how are you not getting this.
Sep 17, 2017 If any of the other 15 members watching this thread has an easier way of explaining it please do so now
Sep 17, 2017 Except it's f---ing not m8 Except there is no majority opinion on the topic m8 If there is, where is it? And why wasn't I polled on it along with "everyone" how is it stupid logic to state a literal fact and as a result, point out an actual flaw in logic using that fact? And that's the issue A TINY fraction of people voting for something online (and I mean an absurdly f---ing minuscule amount of people) doesn't = a majority beyond the exact poll they might've voted in you can't turn around after polling 10 people and say, well, 9 of them liked _____, therefore it's an indisputable majority consensus that _____ is a classic like what the f--- would that even mean out of that context? nothing. not a god d--- thing. The problem is that you have it reversed m8
Sep 17, 2017 Also, still waiting on you to tell me how "classic" is a description of an album lol it blatantly tells you nothing about the album except the perceived quality from your pov
Sep 17, 2017 if an piece of work is a huge hallmark achievment in quality & it's impact is backed up historically (for instance there's clear evidence that the work shaped a new sound or the album defined a sound or generation), then the argument for it being classic holds a lot of weight. an across the board consensus on top of that only makes it's classic status less debatable. the word means a lot. it articulates what an album/movie/any art did for its genre, what it did for people, what it did for history. just cause classic status isn't some sort of scientific truth doesn't mean it's meaningless bs
Sep 17, 2017 I'm going to sleep after this but listen It's not asking 10 people if illmatic is a classic its opening a f---ing discussion to hundreds of thousands of people, no wait millions of people and out of those that participate in the discussion they come out with the consensus that illmatic is a great album. If metacritic.com or any website was only able to be accessed by new yorkers then the general consensus wouldn't be illmatic is a great album the general consensus among-st new yorkers would be so. But the internet is open to everyone, everyone has a platform to express their opinions its up to you whether you do that or not. Never said it was a description of an album I said it describes the quality it is perceived at by the majority of people of expressed their opinions on it.
Sep 17, 2017 look at this man trying to stick on topic proud of ya u deserve a cookie go to the nearest bakery and tell em Ben sent u.
