Jun 30, 2016

#isEminemDEAD

 

Jun 30, 2016

Eyyo @Genghis Stan imma continue this here since i dont want us to further derail suburbs' thread

Alright both tend to get hate from haters equally, but lets look at their own fanbases

Thug style choice is executed well, which is why his work gets so much acclaim from his fans. Em's doesn't always, he f---s up in some way or another often, which is why, rightfully so, his work gets mixed reactions from his fans.

Rhyme or Reason (good but ruined by choppy a--- flow)
So Much Better (forced edginess & lots of cringe bars)
Survival (lots of cringe bars, crap arena rock production, s--- hook, entire song feels predictable, like its a recycled recovery track)
Legacy (good until the hook)
a------ (literally everything about the song is bad)
Headlights (song with shittons of potential ruined by forced emotion & lots of cringe bars)

I could go on. He frequently f---s up in some way or another.

& the purposefully uncomfortable lyrics don't feel natural like they used to, but forced instead, cringey but not in a nostalgic way but rather a 'wtf am i listening to' way

He's got a lot of good bars post hiatus, but there's d--- near always corny forced ones that come with it. Especially when he crams puns & whatnot in

& nah i see a lot of complaints regarding the bars & verses as well. But agree that he's got hella good lines & strong content as well when he hits strides

 

Jul 1, 2016

 

Jul 1, 2016

>Rhyme or Reason (good but ruined by choppy a--- flow)

this is bs

 

Jul 1, 2016

If Em dropped a surprise album he'd break the internet in half Interscope flooded with money swimming pools of it...ppl would be goin to the ER in shock...whats wrong with him? Em dropped an album...

 

Jul 1, 2016

Eminem's 'Berzerk' was featured in this trailer, seems like a good enough movie.

 

Jul 1, 2016

I have some handwritten bassmint tapes and some early eminem demos for sale.

 

Jul 1, 2016

Who cares?!?!?!

 

Jul 1, 2016

 

Jul 1, 2016

This,
the flow in that song definately wasn't goat , but i can't really say the way he rapped made it a bad song. The type of flow was uninteresting, but it wasn't anything less than uninteresting imo. I kinda see it as an average or slightly below song since i pay alot more attention to the words anyway.

The only song i completely agree with you on, also felt out of place with the rest of the album being semi-personal too.

This song sounded like becuase it was a song he made for promotion of CoD black ops 2 (the reason for the production choices). The energy was nice , the flow was nice for the type of beat and i really have no choice with the production being arena rock, felt in place with the lyrics (albeit he couldve done it better)

you mean you don't like the second and third verses, or just the hook. I don't your problems with the hooks, and its not even like Eminem was the one who sung or wrote it .

Forced emotion? what do you mean. In headlights the emotions were (at himself) and regret and passion, and this was balanced in how he switches between shouting and and calming down for specific lines. the raise in in voice comes from a buildup of emotions . Also the bars were pretty straightfoward, and the flow was nice.
Although 'forced emotion' really sounds like you complaining that you don't like the style of shouting.

"I really hate to use autotune as an argument, but i think Em's rapping is alot harder to execute and looking at mmlp2, he flow was mostly top notch throughout the album.

People like thug because of how his voice sounds musically mixed with how his songs are genereally fun party type songs. That aside thug lacks artistic depth , and alot of times the autotune feels like a gimmick for a flat song . But then again, thats not something thug fans expect.

You cherry picked survival and so much better ,and Headlights and rhyme or reason are really just your opinion about his style of rap.


I can see the good in thug and appreciate him for that despite not being my type of music.

but eminem get's no love

 

Jul 1, 2016

btw, @Help i have a legit issue here with the text box, sometimes the end of a line continues to a random point above it.
Im not sure what i did to make it happen, but it's a problem that pops up every so often.
And while im at it.......
2.Viewing a page as guest has in a non live thread a bug where 'new replies' creates a random amount of duplicates of previous strings of messages

5.@Bobo is a thread derailing, baitng spambot c---- that should be banned.(this is actually an example of above mentioned glitch, so ill leave it here) 3.Banned users have no (natural) logout option nor can we send complaints to probably do an appeal.
4.replies in non live threads after new replies that haven't been loaded have been made sometimes creates duplicates of both new and previous messages when the forum tries to load everything (usually after a buildup and in a very active thread).
5.Koolo hates me
6. i was too lazy to post this is the issues forum

 

Jul 1, 2016

Might be cause of the whole COD thing that i don't like it. hated that he did that, felt out of place on the album, woulda been better on a COD soundtrack by itself. Yea energy was nice but there were a few lines "i dont sneeze! I just achoo & achieve!" where i was like 'literally why, em'

& yea lyrics were fitting & agreed, he coulda done it a lil better

All verses plus the hook. & the hook, regardless of the person on it, i still feel was utilized horribly. He still picks what goes & doesn't go on songs.

Well yea it's due to the delivery for me. But its not really simply just cause i didn't like the shouting, but rather that it felt like that was solely what he was relying on to show emotion & he went totally overkill with it at times. It didn't feel that real to me. & most of the bars were great but there were still moments where i was like 'wtf'

Well yea ofc its shittons harder to execute & was impressive as h--- in a lot of spots. For the most part he did well flow wise here, besides a few spots where he went overboard, later on is where it becomes too much to a point where the verses become rhythmless/out of sync (Shady XV & Southpaw OST)

& i feel like the autotune is more of an aesthetic/style choice for Thug rather than a gimmick, he just f---s with that sound.

Precisely, they're in totally different lanes & while Em's style is far more complex & harder to execute, its still aiming for something completely different.

Nah i didn't even nitpick when listening, this was stuff i noticed on a casual listen. Felt like a glaring flaw to me. & well yea its opinion but the execution is what i found to be wrong with it rather than the style (besides the arena rock criticism i guess that was just me judging based on personal preference)

True, tho i still do agree that a lot of the bashing is warranted, but yea there's a few out there that genuinely believe that Em never puts out anything of value anymore & thats a complete crock of s---

 

Jul 1, 2016

I'll be skeptical if his next album is an LP, I'd like 10 tracks at most.

 

Jul 1, 2016

agreed

sorry for the error's i was typing fast. but i disagree here, i think the 'insert female here' singing goes well with songs like guts over fear and monster, becuase i think eminem could only possibly sound like cringe doing a hook like that . As long as his verses are good then im fine, and legacy's verses sounded fine. He even had that s--- with the rain falling in the background, and the flow was good. And the third verse had nice energy buildup.

the song wasn't pure shouting though, and he did indeed go overboard sometimes, but i don't think it's because he particularly wanted to as a gimmick, it's how he raps nowadays.

Yeah but to some people it sounds annoying at which point thugu has nothing else to offer
granted i like alot myself but i can see why people would dislike it.

you can't casually listen to mmlp man , i think thug is better for casual listens, you gotta take the time and appreciate the wordplay.
what are your thoughts on rap god? and 'so far'

I think 'so far' is overhated, the stories in there are intentionally corny, but it's kinda fun. And for some reason, not hearing about drinks in a club felt refreshing. Hearing eminem rant about being to old to use the internet and him referencing 'the real slim shady'

Makes me wonder if he makes some lines corny on purpose.

 

Jul 1, 2016

I don't mind the getting female hooks thing, it's just the people that were used to do them, & the quality of the hooks themselves.

Yea i f--- with Legacy, think its some of his best post hiatus verses, but will always skip the hook. He coulda got someone better for it & a better hook for it.

It wasn't pure shouting but it was just too much when it was at times.

& yea i get that it aint a gimmick & that its just how he raps nowadays but still think he he uses it too much & it can feel hella out of place or awkward at times (50 Cent's "My Life" comes to mind). I'm hoping he improves on this stuff a lil bit.

I can see why they'd dislike it, but still think that sometimes those that criticize it for its simpiness are criticizing from a point of view that all hip hop should sound inherently complex or high effort. When in reality its just a different style with a different aim. There's no central aim for rap. I'm sure u know all this s--- already tho.

s--- wording on my part -- not casually but just... a normal listen, just looking at it surface level i noticed those flaws. & yea i get that sometimes u gotta take the time to appreciate the wordplay.

I like Rap God. He used it to flex his technical skills & it worked in this song. Was impressive & the content was interesting. Top 3 MMLP2 track for me

So Far idf with. Was purposefully corny but felt weird coming from him in this stage of his career, felt really tryhard to me. I can see how core/strong fans might like it, but idt it's all that great.

& yea i think he does some of those corny lines on purpose but sometimes its corny in a bad way rather than corny in a fun, nostalgic way.

 

Jul 1, 2016

Im a newer fan and i liked 'so far' though. It's kinda refrshing to see him go off.
"They call me classless i heard that
i second and third that
don't know what the f--- i'd be doing if it weren't rap
probably be a giant turd sack
but i blew never turned back
turned 40 and still sag
teenagers act more f---ing mature jack"

This flow here was wonderful. I personally liked this song alot more after actually giving it a chance instead of turning it away or skipping it.
Enjoyed Em alot more when i started focusing mostly on lyrics. But meh, we can agree somewhat on most things here.
Still goat IMO

 

Jul 1, 2016

He should come over to sxn80
He'd diss WPG like he did the source.

 

Jul 1, 2016

Laughs at his own annotations on Genius.****

 

Jul 2, 2016

Eminem x Logic needs to happen.

 

Jul 2, 2016