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Started by Oldboy, Nov 28, 2014, in Eminem Add to Reading List

Relapse vs recovery

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  1. Disorderly Progress
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    Disorderly Progress What's cookin?

    May 31, 2018
    Yep. Just imagine what we may not have heard...

    For some reason people would always assume 'if it ain't on the album, probably pure trash' or presume Em must have picked the best stuff so whatever haven't heard isn't worth hearing. I don't know hwy anybody ever got this idea lol.

    First of all, even when he was better at picking s---, there's only so many songs which can go on an album and he was still trying to create a story and a balance. And he's always done the same formula 'my s--- talking track + my story track + my 'b---- track'' yada yada. So it not being on the album says nothing about the quality, or what you may like personally :/

    People noticing this more now because they hearing s--- which was left off MMLP2 and the poor choices are glaring. But this is true even from his prime era... Just listened to Till h--- Freezer Over the other day... Brilliant track; also Get You Mad from that era, also Bad Influence, all fantastic songs..

    MMLP who knows. Maybe there was a few but everything about that masterpiece is perfect.

    TES - left off a Rakim track, Stimulate (fair enough, it doesn't fit sonically but obviously a brilliant track by itself still).

    Then as everyone points out lately - Groundhog Day, of course. Wicked Ways, Don't Front is fkn amazing - nobody mentions Baby too. I was listening to that on the train home; I get that it's a generic sounding Em track. Like it sounds like something we could have heard before, nothing special in that sense, but his rapping and lyricism and flowwwww, my god. 11/10.

    f---, Relapse era too. That's the most curious to me. I want to know wtf Relapse 2 was, Em said they had enough to make probably 3 albums too... if Stay Wide Awake was on ONE, wtf else did they have for the sequel d--- it.

    Recovery even. Solid album. Banging tracks.

    Would love to hear all this s---.

    None of that was directed at you btw lol. Just responding to s--- I always see people say & little sleep & 50 coffees today, s--- I'm wired, time to sleep.
     
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  2. Disorderly Progress
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    Disorderly Progress What's cookin?

    May 31, 2018
    It can probably just look like that in retrospect.

    Lots of artists which make hits always say things like 'Wait, THAT?', like, the s--- they expect to be hits never are and the s--- which is they're surprised by, or just never expected to take off. Nobody can predict that.

    And I think it's true too because I remember that era strongly, I remember that track building up. They began to market it as a single long after it organically took off. The market told them what to do with it, it clearly wasn't planned. But it looks that way now because it became such a formula, particularly for Em, from that point. Probably just used Rihanna due to the concept and to give the album a bit of a boost, then the song started to take off and they're like 'oh s---, let's hop on this train'.

    Then it becomes legendary/a formula and looks obvious in retrospect because we've been bombarded with it since.
     
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  3. kodo
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    Jun 1, 2018
    looking back on em today. the very early years were a bunch of nonsense overly-complicated rhyming over terrible beats. he harnessed the best of it and made infinite. then came paul jimmy and dre. took the rhyming and compacted it into an amazing product. now that the dre & jimmy machine are gone we're back to nonsense overly-complicated rhyming over terrible beats.

    oh and endless terrible pop songs.
     
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  4. Sahil Kohli
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    Jun 1, 2018
    Wait wait wait wait...
    Did Em leave off a track with Rakim and it didn't make it to TES????
    That song would've been a treat!!!
    Come on Em, empty that stash of gold that you got.
     
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  5. DontKnow
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    Jun 1, 2018
    Em sent Till I Collapse to Rakim to have a feat. Rakim was on late so this "request" expired and he didn't make it.
     
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  6. eddie313
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    eddie313 The Funeral

    Jun 1, 2018
    Em should do a listening party in MGM grand boxing arena for Bodied soundtrack ...oh wait I forgot Em doesnt do those
     
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  7. Ron Burgundy
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    Ron Burgundy Still a Grade-A prick.

    Jun 1, 2018
    Em does listening sessions by himself...

    in his car....

    eating taco bell

    wearing his pick Alf shirt.
    :3mbeard:
     
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  8. eddie313
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    eddie313 The Funeral

    Jun 1, 2018
    Hahahah yup
     
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  9. Ron Burgundy
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    Ron Burgundy Still a Grade-A prick.

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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Jun 1, 2018
    This is that verse with that awful (to the point of comedy) contrived flow

    strips away any meaning that could've possibly been there
     
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  11. The Mandalorian
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    The Mandalorian This is the way

    Jun 1, 2018
    Man this looks so good on paper but so s-----y the way Em delivers it :empalm:
     
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  12. Sahil Kohli
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    :'( Just imagine what that song could've been with that Nate Dogg hook and a Rakim verse too. Why the f--- Em fans can't have good things lmao.
     
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  13. relapse 2
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    Jun 2, 2018
    BME 2 ..
     
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    Jun 2, 2018
    Hadn’t even appreciated how deep this verse was until now...

    I don’t know if the mad flow holds it back or makes it even better
     
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    Jun 2, 2018
    It would be great to finally have Die Hard.
     
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    Jun 2, 2018
    He would die of anxiety and embarrassment due to people's reactions
     
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    Jun 2, 2018
    Anxiety is not fun.:kdotcry:
     
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  18. Buddha
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    Jun 2, 2018
    Yup and he just picks it apart

    Or falling asleep with writers block in the parking lot of McDonald’s
     
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    eddie313 The Funeral

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    Lol
     
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  20. eddie313
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    eddie313 The Funeral

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