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Students Terrorize Teacher

Started by Narsh, Nov 2, 2015, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. gorealsteady
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    Okay so what's the problem? Don't you agree with that statement?
     
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    I agree, Just adding onto it
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 3, 2015
    You said on the first page that this school should hire the cop from last week, insinuating that what happened to that girl should happen to these kids (excessive abuse of power). Also, you're not the only one, multiple people in this thread have stated these kids should get beaten. Two wrongs don't make a right, come on guys, this is stuff they teach you in elementary school.
     
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    The people who think he was funny are morons.

    And being dragged out of the classroom is different than getting beat up lol. And the punishment should come after that, not just getting out of the class.

    I mentioned narsh because he is also felt sorry for people who were wrong and generally is against cops. I don't care about his skin colour why do you bring that up?
     
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    So these morons should be dragged out of the classroom too? You can't teach kids that bullying is bad by bullying back. That's a double standard and won't be the right example.

    Simply de-escalting the situation by expelling the person who causes trouble is a much more understandable and clear example of punishment for kids.

    I doubt he is against cops, when did Narsh say that without being sarcastic/funny?
     
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    If the cop acted how he did last week against these kids, I'm 100% sure people would feel less sorry about them. I don't think they should be 'beaten', but treat them like poor victims (in this case) would be wrong imo.
     
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  8. Michael Myers
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    Dicipline = the same as bullying.. okay.
     
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    What does discipline mean? It means having the power to focus your mind at tasks at hand.

    Do you teach kids to focus by dragging them out of classrooms? Those other kids will prolly be amused/scared because of a cop interceding in their very private classroom.
    Imagine that being the norm in every classroom, no matter if its black OR white people acting up...

    You seem really cold Michael.
     
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    These kids need to learn that they were wrong. If they wanted to be cool and funny, face the consequences. Not the norm in every classroom, but when it's really needed. It's stupid and unbelievable that stuff like this happens and cops need to be there

    Why do you keep bringing up skin colour lol
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    It's not about feeling less sorry, it's about what's right and what's wrong. It's about cops/resource officers understanding the level of physicality they should be using in particular situations. I don't know any police department that tells its officers it's protocol to throw someone (like the resource officer last week did) in order to detain them. I don't care if it was that girl last week or one of the kids in this video, wrong is wrong, abuse of power is abuse of power, it doesn't change.

    These kids (living in Chicago) are victims to their own environment which encourages this type of behavior but that's a completely other discussion. Yes, they deserved to be punished and I think everyone here would be fine with some expulsions.
     
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    They will learn that they're wrong by a simple expellment. You can't prove me wrong, can you?

    Why i bring it up, is because i'm making you think about your double standards. I highly doubt if you think white people acting up deserve the same punishment for some reason.. i'm just being completely honest and open about my thoughts Michael.. don't get angry at that fact.
     
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  13. Narsh
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    Not what JMG said

    But yeah schools like these need more security guards and resource officers. Not actual cops though
     
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    No grs doesn't think they need to be punished. I agree with some of your points tho, but I hate people who only look at things from their perspective (the people who were wrong) and ignore the REAL victims like the teacher in this case.

    The cops thing is a different story -I know I said it myself- but I just mean in this case they should get punished. And if that means getting dragged out of the class if they didn't co-operate, so be it. I guess we think different about that. Doesn't mean I think cops should abuse their power btw, also wrong.
     
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    Jesus Christ you can't take any discussion seriously can you?
     
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    Your only answer is: Cops should use force to remove them.

    You don't seem to have ANY clue about when a cop goes too far. Clearly a cop being in a school to teach children 'discipline', as you say, is already ABUSING their power. Because they infleunce all the children tremendously by simply interfering in a private and relatively 'safe' school environment.
     
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    A simple expellment is not enough imo.

    And you're making assumptions.. I don't give a f--- about their race, I already forgot what colour these kids had because that doesn't matter. We're all humans. If you think I see it otherwise, prove it.. you just assume it because my opinion differs from you
     
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    An expellment will make them powerless and the class quiet again.. how is that not enough?

    I'm making assumptions because you provide me enough information that you're biased and ignorant of my intellectually coherent arguments.
     
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    If they ask for it I said. Not for no reason. And I don't think cops should be at school, but just security. Cops should be in public imo. And the fact that cops are at school isn't their fault.. they don't decide that
     
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    You ignore one thing: the teacher. How does she feel when they get away with it so easily. She is the one and only real victim here.

    You make assumptions based on your own one sided arguments and ignore to look at things from another perspective -teachers/cops-
     
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