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Students Terrorize Teacher

Started by Narsh, Nov 2, 2015, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. gorealsteady
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    The cops come there because they think there's a problem. Who decides whether it's a problem.. the teacher? But there's a lot of bad teachers who could easily abuse that 'power'.
     
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    The teacher had to endure some strong language and threats, but isn't she in class knowing that could happen?

    These moments will keep occurring if you can't control a room with discipline. If someone wants to be a bad guy, you could easily expell them forever.

    My assumptions are fair... but that's ofcourse my humble opinion :emoji_wink:
     
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    Of course those things 'could' happen. But they shouldn't happen, it isn't what they sign up for.

    And how do those things you mentioned make it right what they did?
     
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    The problem is we don't live in a perfect world. And your false sense of superiority has led you to believe you're better than most kids acting up. Not knowing their background story and still judging those kids is extremely harsh imho.

    I never said they weren't wrong, that's your false assumption. The things i mentioned are a suggestion to prevent the situation from escalating and to teach students the right manners and discipline.
     
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  5. Michael Myers
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    What they did is wrong. Their background doesn't change that and shouldn't matter -to an extent-

    This situation already 'escalated' lol did you watch the video? And they needed to be stopped. Teaching them right manners is fine, said that like 3 times already, but it shouldn't fully replace punishment
     
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    I know what they did was wrong. Their background shouldn't change that FACT, but it should influence the principles decision on the degree of punishment they'll get.

    I never said the situation didn't escalate, i was simply giving an example of how to de-escalate WITHOUT resorting to violence. I just don't think that violence can ever be a solution to fix this problem.
     
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    I know my opinion is absolutely disgusting and has absolutely no empathy


    This kid hasn't probably problems, he's just a dum guy in the presence of some dumb chicks and he wants to show how cool he isn't against a weak teacher.

    The only way to not have those kind of problems is to not hire teachers who can't exerce any authority, especially in ghetto schools, or to teach the teachers how to have authority, but I don't really think it's possible to teach charisma and authority.

    Probably that with another teacher those students are quiet as f---.

    Don't hate me for being so heartless and for victim shaming but that's the only logic way to fight these issues
     
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    No this is exactly what i think should happen too! It's much more mature than asking a cop to drag someone out the classroom.. thinking that'll teach kids to behave against a (presumably) weak teacher.
     
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    But who says it doesn't influence that decision? I'm talking about the moment they were acting like d----s against her, not afterwards.

    Again, aside from the fact that I said I wouldn't feel sorry if they got their a--- dragged out of the class I never said violence is the answer for the problem
     
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    Do you think this has to do with their background? A kid with with a really hard background wouldn't act like a fake gangster, but just stay quiet until he gets angry and then slap the s--- out of the teacher and leave crying/laughing

    These more look like spoiled kids
     
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    Schools are like prisons. They breed all kinds of crazy behavior. No way would I ever teach kids older than 12 or younger than 19.
     
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    No listen. If he WAS a gangster, he would be a criminal... so a cop SHOULD come in and arrest him for being violent/threatening.

    He clearly ISN'T a gangster.. so a cop has no business dealing with him. He probably likes to be funny in school without noticing/caring how bad he is behaving against people.
    There could be a million things happening at home that would explain his behaviour.. so it's best to talk to him and his parents before assuming he's a r-----/criminal.
     
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    Listen i'm not sure why you're arguing against me.. because i never said they weren't wrong.

    So to end this: NO dragging out isn't a solution because it doesn't prevent the scenario from happening again (if the teacher is weak or the student has mental problems).

    The Principle should look into the situation of both the teacher and student and decide what is best for them and the school.
     
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    You are talking about the aftermath... I agree, but I was talking about that moment. So let's just agree we look at this differently because this isn't going anywhere lol.
     
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    Oh i would've agreed with you if you said this the first time. Not the dragging out part tho..
     
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    No the cops should not have anything to do with the whole story, all we need is a teacher who can scream "shut the f--- up and sit down if you want to stay at this school" and then call the principle and tell him the facts.
     
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    Cops at school = a nono
     
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    Why the f--- would you need cops for this?
    I mean those are laughable guys that my grandad could calm down if he came in the class at that moment
     
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    That's wrong. If those guys had guns, were physically aggressive and strong enough to put the teacher in a problem situation, then you shouldn't hesitate to let the cops come, with their dogs and guns.
     
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