Jun 29, 2016 Yeah well this whole post is just plain wrong but I wanted to clarify that I'm not american I'm from Argentina, not fancy Buenos Aires though lol but some depressing third world shithole
Jun 29, 2016 Yeah absolutely. The 94 crime bill is one of the biggest blemishes on the country in the past 50 years. But I'm laughing at this kid thinking that bill, for example, does't actively target black people just because it doesn't say "black people" in the text anywhere. As if a teenager from another country would have any hope of grasping the effect of minimum sentencing and three strike laws and the like.
Jun 29, 2016 So does that not affect your view of the clintons? Specifically Hillary's racist "super predator" slur? going a bit off topic here
Jun 29, 2016 Yes it definitely is the biggest mark against Bill's presidency to me, and drags him down quite a bit in my eyes on the all-time list. Hillary's comment was absolutely heinous but I'm not as quick as some people to assume she still holds those views, or that she would still support legislation to the same effect. I understand people who do have those concerns about her but I've always gotten the impression that she wishes she could come out against it.
Jun 29, 2016 You mean getting punished for committing crimes. Saying laws like that target black people implies that black people are less civil than white people. Any law that was used against a black man would be used against any white man in the same instance. More black people falling victim to a crime law could simply be the fault of people committing crimes in higher number.
Jun 29, 2016 I'm not going to waste time explaining to a kid how INSANELY reductive this is. You don't understand the nuances at play here. Have you ever been to America? You don't know what you're talking about and you should stop. The number of things you show no evidence of understanding is staggering. --What's "a crime"? Are they created equal? Isn't aggravated assault different from a b&e? Aren't the root causes different? The demographics more likely to offend? To be caught? --Which areas are more heavily policed, and policed by which kind of officers? Which crimes are most frequently committed by residents of those areas? What are the root causes of those crimes? Are those being addressed legislatively, or are there legal mechanisms working against the residents? --Which crimes trigger mandatory minimum sentences? Which comparable crimes don't? What are the racial breakdowns of people who commit Crime A vs Crime B? --Who makes up grand juries? What does a grand jury do? Which types of grand juries are open and which are closed, and what are the socioeconomic breakdowns of those indicted by each? --What are the rates of indictment for white and black people charged with the same crime? How do the mean sentences differ? That's, like, a very rudimentary and not even close to comprehensive list of question you need to be able to answer to have even the first clue what you're talking about in this discussion. Go back to your "research," you're embarrassing yourself.
Jun 29, 2016 The source of the data is from Colorado department of public safety. and im not gonna go out of my way to crop out the watermark for you
Jun 29, 2016 Pretty sure America has established laws to prohibite racial discrimination in employment too... Also the article never talks about "a few" companies, you invented that So no, this wasn't the key part of this article Nah, the study that said all immigrants are discriminated when searching for a job, and especially maghrebins (which, guess, are mostly Muslims) was mentioned earlier in the article. At the very start of it, actually, I don't know how you missed it. Her study was to compare the same type of immigrants with as only difference their religion. Read what follows the part of the quote you cut off, it explains what happens and you don't have to think about what the write up might be suggesting. The write up says "If you're a Muslim immigrant, you're 2 to 3 times less likely to be hired than your Christian equivalent" That is, according to the article, because of the employer's irrational, as pointed out in the article, assumption that Muslims opress women and are against laïcity.
Jun 29, 2016 Oh systematic discrimination is actually about establishing laws that target a group of people f--- @Pato v2 you could've said that earlier
Jun 29, 2016 This is confusing af though because in French there is systemic discrimination which means something completely different
Jun 29, 2016 And that's why I said I don't have enough proof to confirm that this actually happens in America The article said "some", pretty sure you get what I'm attempting to explain Said it at the start but it ended up debunking by itself, which is why the irony I did, it says that the owners of these businesses are scared of hiring them because of their thoughts about women and other subjects If all the folks that were part of the test were Senegal inmigrants that means that they couldn't of had applied the racial stereotype for muslims (Middle Eastern people) What I'm saying here is that the author is suggesting that they were open about their beliefs and made different statements clarifying it The experiment was a disaster lol " title=" " /> Jesus Christ dude
Jun 29, 2016 Yeah I'm f---ing dumb but bruh you'd be confused too if there's at one side people talking about systemic discrimination and at the other one people talking about systematic discrimination
Jun 29, 2016 No It's not because Christian immigrants are less discriminated than Muslim immigrants that Christian immigrants aren't discriminated... No, the employer's don't hire Muslims because of what they think Muslim people think about women I don't understand the rest of what you say, the article clearly says "perceived as Muslim", I don't think someone who is called Mohamed has to be open about his belief to be perceived as Muslim, and this is only one example.
Jun 29, 2016 Ive been to places much worse, where 'police' patrol the nights with m16's The police are the ones actually at risk though. But okay, nice list there Black are less fit for society? Is that what you are trying to imply the areas that commit more crimes Lol, try patrolling tivoli gardens with a handgun. Yes, the more dangerous the area, the more protection needed. Frankly irrelevant, laws are a method of social control, and police enforce these laws. If you have a specific demographic committing alot of crimes disproportionately , its only logical to focus your attention on these people because these are the critical areas. This is something like the response i got when i asked a police officer why i was being searched, something to do with me being among actual criminals. Tis unfortunate that black people found themselves in this situation. But its a similar issue over here when the rastafarian community preach about oppression from 'babylon' Yeah, sometimes politicians really don't give a f--- about the poor. That said, there still has to be laws. In areas where laws don't really help as much, the better solution is intervention, but that's assuming you give a f---. The other option is stricter regulation of those areas. This is heartless, but logically reasonable. Unless you think the circumstance justifies breaking the law. Saying crime laws for things such as assault are explicitly against these people really implies that these people aren't fit for society. Again, if a demographic is more likely to commit crimes, the logical thing to do would be to target those people. It's nothing to do with being black, it's to do with not being fit for society. There are certain prerequisites to be called for jury, a lower ratio of black people fulfilled these standards and there are overall less black people. So it's only natural to have more white people in the grand jury. Maybe, just maybe, the people called for jury................. are less likely to commit crimes ? Just a thought Based on how you framed the previous points, its only natural to assume that there were more convictions within a certain group. And you literally just said for different crimes. I do recall saying more white people were executed didn't I? That's all? Do you think Jamaica is a nice place where the dynamics of police targeting certain groups is something i wouldn't know about. The narrative of 'babylon' has gotten old . Police planting drugs and guns? a weekly occurence. Police are allowed to patrol with m16's for fear of the policemen. The circumstances might be different, but these aren't things you should just assume i'm ignorant about. What you seem to suggest is that because black people are more likely to commit crimes, the law system has targeted them. And forgive me for saying this but that's d--- well what i would do too.
Jun 29, 2016 are latino's privileged, more white people get arrested than them OR, OR, maybe, more black people smoke weed? I doubt as much latino's were bumping 2001 back in the day
