Nov 17, 2017

Pretty sure she can get a manslaughter charge, i mkght be wrong tho

 

Nov 17, 2017

i'm not a lawyer but i would assume that if they investigate it and find evidence that she sold him the bad pill she'll be indicted for trafficking and maybe manslaughter or something, unless she gives up whoever she bought the pills from for a lighter sentence. i really don't have a solid answer but my assumption is that they'd want to go up the ladder to find who's making the bad fent pills in the first place.

 

Nov 17, 2017

to be fair i dont know many addicts who start drugs in their adult life (except people who get into accidents or have injuries and get hooked on pain pills, but that's not the issues with peep)

 

Nov 17, 2017

I run my own Fitness coaching company. Whether it's pro MMA fighters, pro bodybuilders or the average weekend warrior looking to shed a few pounds I work with everybody from all walks of life. I've done a lot of fitness modeling which has landed me in several fitness magazines. A majority of my clientele is online so instead of having these publications pay me I've just asked they publish my social media handles which has allowed me to reach and work with people all over the planet. I can't tell you how many people in that 17-25 range come to be because they want to be "aesthetic" or "shredded"(they want to get laid) and are willing to follow my nutrition and workouts to a T but f--- me if I mention that their daily Xanax bars aren't exactly optimal for what they are after. It's f---ing sad tbh.

Great post and response btw. Exactly why I asked you.

 

Nov 17, 2017

Tfw xanax getting all the coverage and fentanyl just sitting out here killing teenagers and young adults in crazy amounts

 

Nov 17, 2017

yeah thats another thing
xanax almost 100% didn't k--- him unless he mixed it with something
why is everything saying he overdosed on xanax when he'd have to take almost his own bodyweight to OD
shine the f---ing light on fent this r-----ed drug has taken way too many people already

 

Nov 17, 2017

I feel sick seeing how Peep's death is becoming some sort of martyrdom story and what not, this is reality and if you know someone thats going through some s--- and is resorting to drugs for comfort--don't just sit there and type, go talk to em. Lost a good friend of mine some years back, he OD'd on pills during a party and none of us never understood why he did it.

 

Nov 17, 2017

Sorry about your friend. I've dealt with addicts in my family and I've always told them that's the f---ing thing about overdoses. Anybody who has ever overdosed doesn't set out to do so or plan on it. They all think they know what their doing and/or they're f---ing invincible. That's why they're called accidental overdoses. If they set out to overdose well then that's suicide. But yeah I'm with you I don't understand it either but I guess we can't unless we're addicts too.

 

Nov 17, 2017

 

Nov 17, 2017

Very well said m8

That last part sort of ties in with my job as a school psych, everyone is subject to conformity and we're all highly impressionable whether we acknowledge it or not. Acknowledging that there is an addiction or needing help truly goes a long way, but understanding what can we do to aid them when you truly can't look inside and see what goes through their mind is the hard and uncertain part.

 

Nov 17, 2017

I've never had a client or friend bring up fent yet. With opiates it's always oxy or f---ing heroin. Again, that's probably just me being old but when I was thier age people who did heroin were bottom feeding scum of the Earth. Don't get me wrong we dabbled with some pills, coke a handful of times, shrooms once, ect... but heroin? Now these kids are talking about it like it's commonplace. I ask all potential clients what drugs they do before I start with them and they'll mention heroin and steroids like it's nothing.

As far as the Xanax thing goes I know it's not that bad alone but anecdotally I see people around me mixing them with a f--- load of other CNS depressants like opiates and some. These regards don't know that with the right combo and some bad luck it doesn't take a whole lot to k--- you.

 

Nov 17, 2017

Sucks listening to his music knowing we won't get to hear him progress. Still almost doesn't even seem real.

 

Nov 18, 2017

It just baffles me. There was a story here over the summer about a cop that had fent PARTICLES on his uniform after a bust and he died later from inhaling them. It's f---ing mental that people make and lace their drugs with this garbage. I seriously on any level can not understand the idea of that. it makes no sense from a money perspective. i don't understand its purpose when it's that f---ing dangerous. it's like manufacturing recreational atom bombs.

Yeah I've never heard of anyone taking fent recreationally, but from what I understand it's super easy to make with s--- from the drug store, so people can go out, make up a batch of fent, and sell people fake xanax or fake oxies or whatever else and not worry about it. The problem is it takes micrograms to k--- someone on that s---. I don't understand why they still do it, if they're just f---ing r-----ed or if they don't understand dosage or what, but that's why so many people are ODing on opiates these days. It's all fake s--- laced with fentanyl which can k--- you just by breathing it in. I struggle with the logic of the people that make it because they're just killing their user base. Makes 0 sense to me what so ever but it keeps f---ing happening. People chew a xan that they think is fine, but it turns out to be fent and they wind up ODing in a car ride and crashing their car, or they overdose and no one's around so they're found a day later dead on their couch. I really don't f---ing get it and it makes me mad just thinking about it.

 

Nov 18, 2017

From reading into this a little I would say he was just barred out on Xanax and took too many with opiates in his system leading him to quit breathing. It's near impossible to od on benzos alone. With Any kind of tolerance to opiates, you can't od on weaker opiods like lean (codeine), hydros, unless you took a massive amount but you're body would be rejecting all the junk in that s--- making you throw most stuff up before your body gives out. Fentanyl is what's killing people who's dieing directly alone from opiates. We're talking a mistake in your scale measuring micrograms even could lead to people dieing. The combo of high doses of benzos and opiates is pure stupidity.

I just can't stand this new generation of rappers who nod out during interviews while sipping lean but then say "I'm not addicted, It's not like it's heroin"
It's the same f---ing thing basically, both turn to morphine in your system lol I just don't get how people can be in that much of denial.

 

Nov 18, 2017

Don’t care what another man thinks. Not trying to be crass. I stand by my statement.

 

Nov 18, 2017

To be fair though again, you can't really blame them for saying that. When you ask the average alcoholic or heroin addict if they're addicted they'll say they have it under control. It's not like they're nodding out and thinking "ha im an addict but I'm pulling one over on these dumb kids", they probably genuinely don't believe they have problem until something like this happens.

 

Nov 18, 2017

Most addicts dont realize they need help until their lives bottom out.

 

Nov 18, 2017

yeah true. I feel sad for those guys I watch on YouTube mainly because I have had to go to a pain management doc for the past 5 years and these guys just have no idea what the f--- they're getting into doing it just for "fun." They're just making it harder for people who actually need stuff to work/function physically.

It's just scary being able to order fentanyl from china within minutes online then you have the dealers with pill presses cutting s--- with fent. This Trump admin gives me a very bad vibe from how they're dealing with this epidemic. They have no idea what to do. Forcing doctors not to prescribe opiates isn't going to do s--- but increase the demand for street drugs.

It's crazy in my area seeing so many former amazing athletes getting hooked to this s--- the past few years. One guy Ik was a NCAA wrestling champion 2 years ago and died this past wrestling season from a fentanyl overdose. He thought he was getting heroin but wasn't. You never would have thought this kid used either by talking to him or seeing him perform. My friend that was my fullback in high school (I was rb) was a huge guy, still is and got into heroin pretty bad but after a recent overdose I think that scared him enough to stop. It's getting ridiculous... And that's pretty f---ing bad for me to even admit