Eminem Em should just hang it up

Started by TheReturn, Dec 30, 2017, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. TheReturn
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    d--- this racist as f---. Ur so out of touch lol.
     
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  2. Hip Hop Gawd
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    I don’t concur. Can’t expect another mmlp got to like him for who he is. If you don’t at least like in your head, castle and arose then I don’t know what would please you.
     
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  4. Disorderly Progress
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    Sad, but true.

    Although I don't really care for him to stop, because I'd still rather have a few great Em tracks every few years than none. I don't think producing bad albums just undoes the great work he has done. SSLP-TES are still pure brilliance and once of the best albums runs ever.

    But yeah, leading up to Revival... for the first time ever... I had 0 faith he would create a classic. Which was never the case before. With Recovery I thought he could, with MMLP2 I thought he could. But I think after Recovery, MMLP2 and Shady XV era collab tracks... I felt like he'd turned a corner he would never turn back - with the pop star collabs and style of making music...

    And sadly I was right. Revival is that worse than ever.

    I don't think he's capable of making a classic. Maybe at a push a 'very nice' album, but he'd have to get in the studio with 1-2 producers and create a sound. If he continues picking random beats and making random s---, then splicing it together... No chance. But that is what I think he's going to continue doing now until he retires.
     
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  5. KingZ
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    If he isnt going to make atleast one last album with all dre production or the bass bros or both, then he should quit. Im not one an believe an artist's terrible music in the latter part of their career taints the good work they put out, but Eminem is trying his hardest to make me change that belief.
     
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  6. pablo godflow
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    tf are yall on? revival is Ems best work since relapse, imo he finally gets the sonics and the vibes right

    Offended brought Em back to Goat Status, Nowhere Fast finally got the pop sonics right, Heat finally nails Em's Beasties vibes, Chlorasceptic shows how old dogs like Em can still learn new tricks, and I dont gotta talk about that In Your Head/Castle/Arose transition.

    Concept was godly, yall should really analyze the lp out before prophesizing Ems downfall
     
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  7. Android
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    Android Just another Stan coder

    Dec 31, 2017
    After a great album like Revival? Nah, he's got more great stuff in him.
     
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  8. Hip Hop Gawd
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    I think you guys are ridiculous. Expectations are way too high for a 45 year old rapper. I'm just being real. I came into Revival feeling very negative and after the album I felt very proud of Eminem. There are good tracks on the album and don't you like the way he can still put syllables together? The fact that he stands up for the country? What's the matter with you guys? Revival is his best work since The Eminem Show. Cohesive albums are overrated anyway because then you'll end up saying that you wish he would have had a little bit of this and a little bit of that instead.
     
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    It's hard to take your opinion literally because you've been known to flip. You are saying that bad albums won't undo the work he has done. But tomorrow you might change your mind and say that it can undo the work he has done.

    Since when did an album have to have a cohesive sound? I don't think that's how all other artist work. Why does Eminem have to be graded on a curve? I think most artist just put together songs. There's usually no theme or anything.

    The album wasn't promoted right, but having pop features on his album is the only way to sell. He would have sold even less if he didn't make ''River.'' So I understand you want a Dre produced album, but in order for Eminem to be able to continue even making music, he needs half of his songs to be pop singers. It's the only chance he has. It's just the reality.
     
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  11. Hip Hop Gawd
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    Not gonna watch.
     
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  12. Hip Hop Gawd
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    You guys expect too much. Eminem knows what is best for him because he is Eminem. His life.
     
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  13. Hard Klyntar
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    it's last 3 seconds of the video I already time stamped it
     
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    Sad times for be a Eminem fan
     
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    Eminem already said sales would decline and he'd get clowned and frowned on.
     
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  16. David26
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    I dont know.
    For me is very frustating. Revival had some good ideas, good concepts and its the execution the problem. Seems so easy to see. I still have faith in his hability of create music and i really thinks he is one of the better artist ever.
    i respect another opinions, but for me this album is worse than encore and i never throught he is gonna fell off so hard at this point of his career again.
     
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  18. Disorderly Progress
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    You really need to get off that flip argument, because it's completely idiotic.

    First of all, maintaining 1 opinion forever is not more valid or more noble than... not.
    Second of all, I have not "been known to flip", to play your game for a moment - my view on Relapse? My very first response online was "this is brilliant" and I loved Relapse, then came a barrage of hate, mocking me and others for even suggesting it was good... where was my flipping? I maintain the same opinion on Relapse to this very day.

    But that means nothing. It's just to disprove your point that I am 'known to flip' and your implication that my view on Revival is due to the crowd, when I didn't even read anybody else's opinion after my initial listen. I just listened a few more times by myself and felt it was a---.

    Since when does an album have to have a cohesive sound? Since forever to me. All of Em's first three albums do and Relapse does. Those are his 4 best albums to me and every great classic, to me, which I can think of, is cohesive, in some way. That doesn't mean there's an absolute adherence to subject-matter or style, but just that the tracks 'feel' like they belong together. This can happen from style, production or a combination of both. This doesn't happen at ALL on Revival. Having a track like "Chloraseptic" on the same album as "Need Me" is just f---ing ridiculous. It does not work.

    And no an album does not need to be promoted with pop singers to sell. One of Em's biggest singles in recent times was "Rap God". That's Eminem rappity rapping over a trap/trance beat, whispering a chorus. No pop name in sight. Also from the same album, "Berzerk" - another big single, it debuted at no.3 on Billboard and had long-term sales.

    Eminem has never needed that, to sell. And singles don't sell albums. Revival sold like s--- because nobody was excited by it, because it looked predictable, for once (from Eminem)... and it was. That formula is more tired than Grandpa Simpson, it's exploitative and lame and the music just sounds cheap and phoned-in.

    I'm happy to argue with you all you want about the album and the merits of the music, and why I don't like it and think it's a pretty bad album, but stop reverting to this 'flip' s--- because it's moronic and untrue.
     
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    Em is now dog s---!
    Incapable of making good music.
    He used the pop star features 1 too many times, it worked with Recovery because it was the first time he used a pop singer and the world wanted to know what the track would be like.
    LTWYL was a massive WW hit, and that carried on with MMLP2 when he again used Rihanna for the Monster.
    At least with Recovery we got Lil Wayne as arap feature and Kendrick on MMLP2.
    On Revival he chose no rap guests and 8 f---ing pop stars like WTF?
    I will never know why he thought a track with Beyoncé would ever work!
    He should have used Rihanna and Ed Sheeran and that's it and the rest rap feats.
    The fact he and Paul actually thought Beyoncé track would work and the Trump diss just prove how out if touch they both now are in the music industry.
    Revival should have been 10 tracks, at least then 3 quarters would have been fire.
    As Eminem Base said, he had 3 years and this is the total sh-- he gave us?
    A f---ing 8 pop feats album?
    Em treated his fans like s--- thinking this pop fest album would work.
    He either goes away and works with Dre and f---s off Paul and Rick Rubin and actually try with his next album or just f---ing retire because it really is getting embarrassing!
     
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    He'll decide if it's his final bow this time around.

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