Apr 9, 2018

Now bare with me. I know all you hear about is how rap is being continually dumbed now from a lyricism standpoint and that might still be true.

But it dawned on me the other day that as music is evolving and changing, and artists are trying to outdo eachother and outdo the past, that maybe there is actually a more complex approach to some rap music, and that's having a negative impact overall.

Think about it, how often do you hear a song where it's straight forward lyrics with a clear point that only hinges on what's being said and how dope the rappers delivery and authenticity is? It's not just about how top notch the lyricism is, I'm not speaking on that. Just the approach to the whole process.

Every artist adds quirks to their verse now, or tries to be artistic with their delivery or abstract lyricism, that I feel like a lot of tracks kind of lose their meaning along the way.

Seems like no one can just spit a verse over a banging beat anymore. Rappers are rapping faster, or too vague and "artistic". Or with vocal effects. What happened to hip hop beats? Why forgo them? Hip hop beats would still be played on the radio in 2018. It's not that, people are just trying something different.

Maybe it's a good thing, it shows people are trying to move he genre farther and in new directions. But it used to be so easy to say "that's a dope verse" or "look what he did here", and it's honesty not anymore. Everything is vague or stylized. The meaning is always hidden under layers of distractions or up for interpretation. Even with 'rappers' rappers' like Kendrick.

 

Apr 9, 2018

this thread is really good hard evidence that human being's reading comprehension has gone to s---

 

Apr 9, 2018

so rappers try to hard to be unique and inn response their songs lose meaning?

 

Apr 9, 2018

what planet have you been living on

 

Apr 9, 2018

Yes too many tumblr a--- mfs picking up a mic and fruity loops these days

 

Apr 9, 2018

pure disrespect , expected more from you

 

Apr 10, 2018

there is absolutely no reason to make art if youre not looking to do something new and push your medium forward

 

Apr 9, 2018

they already are (arrr!)

 

Apr 9, 2018

Didn't read

 

Apr 10, 2018

@Big Dangerous I think you're a good poster, but I can't get behind this thread, sorry

 

Apr 10, 2018

Btw i dont think either style of writing is better or worse. Simpe straight forward writing can be really interesting. But there's also great enjoyment in not having the message shoved in ur face and just picking up subtle connotations in the music.

 

Apr 10, 2018

There's a big difference between "lack of clarity behind meaning" and "lack of meaning".

Lack of clarity implies that the meaning of songs is as present as ever while the whole premise of this thread is the opposite.

Yea but everything else in this thread including the title implies that this apparent newfound complexity is somehow negative towards the music

 

Apr 10, 2018

lmfaoo yes

 

Apr 10, 2018

Das my point. If the epitome of music with meaning = straight forward, simple messages spelled out for the listener most anyone else would be too complex

 

Apr 10, 2018

omg... he is saying complexity of songs and artistic approaches can cause a song's meaning to be lost. not the whole genre you fat for brians idyut.

pfft pigs arse. you were being dismissive to say the least in your original posts fat for brainz.

jesus christ what the f--- is this? cellulite for brains rambling dipshit tbh.

 

Apr 9, 2018

No, OP just reads like someone who speaks English as a second language wrote an essay and ran every word through a thesaurus

 

Apr 9, 2018

are you implying Migos would be GOAT lyricists if they didn't have ad-libs?

 

Apr 9, 2018

the f--- is this

 

Apr 9, 2018

I didn't read all of it, but I love complex lyricism. Clever metaphors, entendres, etc.

The catchy stuff is cool and fun too, but all of it has a place. Hip hop has sub genres now that have been pushing the culture forward.

 

Apr 9, 2018

Read OP over a bunch of time and I really don't understand what point you're trying to make