Politics 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary

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  1. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Jun 20, 2019
    when is @dna hits going to post a video showing his nine and breaking down his opinions on all the democratic candidates
     
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  2. Pazuzu
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    Jun 20, 2019
    Bernie #1
    Warren #2

    We need a system overhaul

    30,000-40,000 Americans die each year from lack of access to basic healthcare

    Medical bills are #1 cause of bankruptcy

    Warren is wishy washy on Medicare For All. Bernie has been consistent for years and years
     
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  3. M Solo
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    M Solo Fresh Outta London

    Jun 20, 2019
    Who's your number one? Based on what I see and hear I think she'll do great with African Americans but no idea about Hispanics.

    I was huge on Warren pre-2015 but didn't care for her wishy-washiness in 2016 and thought the DNA stuff killed her run. However she has bounced back nicely and I think the "I've got a plan for that!" approach is really working. I've heard a lot of "I'll deal with a crazy leftist for 8 years if it gets rid of my student loans" coming from a lot of strong conservatives lol. Really wish her and Biden could have been on the stage together next week but oh well.
     
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  4. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jun 20, 2019
    Harris is my #1. I think she has the ability to form the most diverse coalition in a general election: far-left, moderate, blue collar, minority voters etc. She’s great on climate change, healthcare, gun control, etc. I’d like to hear more from her on foreign policy but I’m sure we’ll hear more of that once debates start. I don’t like the fact that her campaign decided to make her being a prosecutor the core of her campaign though. It could help her in the general but it’s hurting her so far in the primaries.

    Yeah, the DNA stuff did kind of turn me off to warren a tiny bit. I was hoping after her results came out, she’d just leave it at that but she didn’t. She’s definitely made a nice comeback though. She sounds like the most prepared candidate so far tbh. She really seems to have a solution in mind for most core issues. Im not sure if the “i’ve got all the answers!” approach is a good idea to run on in the long run though. Getting too in-depth with policy tends to lose voters interest (unfortunately). It’s why Clinton wasn’t a good candidate—she was a policy nerd & didn’t really know how to sell those policies without coming off as a professor or something.
     
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  5. Pazuzu
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    Jun 21, 2019
    So Harris, Mayor Pete and Creepy Joseph Biden are all darlings of Wall Street @Enigma

    Why do you like Harris so much? It baffles me. If you’re rich and an elitist I can see why you swoon over her so much. Working class people with families liking her? That makes no sense


    The “far left” aka moderates, who overwhelmingly agree with Bernie’s policies and platform, will not switch to Kamala. She’s a fake, third way politician living in the 80s and 90s. That’s not what our country needs. You’re naive and ignorant when it comes to policies and reading how genuine politicians are, my man
     
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  6. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jun 21, 2019
    She’s to the left of Obama & only notably to the right of Sanders/Warren in this race. Again, the democratic base is not *nearly* as left leaning as social media makes it seem. The Democratic Party is old & fairly moderate but do support progressive policies. Talking about Warren though, how long before you throw her under the bridge? Seems like your messiah is already ahead of you:



    You Bernie or bust voters are literally the f---ing worst.
     
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  7. Pazuzu
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    Jun 21, 2019
    Look at the polls of policies, bro. The Democratic base AND an overwhelming majority of Americans are “left” and support Medicare For All, free college, taxing the rich, Wall Street reform...Bernie is a populist and his policies are the most popular

    Warren is wayyyy better than Harris

    But it’s painfully obvious Bernie is more of a fighter than her

    Nice straw man. I’m not Bernie or bust

    I voted for Hillary in 2016 just like the overwhelming majority of Bernie supporters

    I would absolutely vote for Warren if she’s the nominee

    And since I’m in Pennsylvania I’m voting for whoever the Dem candidate is

    I will close my eyes and hold my breath and vote for Biden Harris or Pete if they’re the Dem winner

    You’re a corporate democrat apologist and don’t even realize it

    And yes...msm doesn’t particularly like Warren or sanders but they prefer Warren because she’s not as harsh on corporate interests as Bernie.
     
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  8. dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl
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    Jun 21, 2019
    i just hope Biden is the 2015 Jeb of his party. be great if those polls change once the primaries roll around.
     
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  9. Pazuzu
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    Jun 21, 2019
    Biden keeps tanking because every time that f---er opens his mouth he shows how out of touch and elitist he is. He liked working with segregationists back in the day, said millennials don’t have it tough even though tuition and housing prices are out of control, jobs shipped overseas by his generation, wage stagnation since the 80s even though productivity has increased, his crime bill f----- over many people, etc.....
     
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  10. Pazuzu
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    Jun 21, 2019
    It’s sad that @Enigma is a corporate media and Democratic Party apologist. His bs detector has malfunctioned, folks. Gullible is his middle name. Blind hatred towards a true fighter of the people in Bernard Sanders

    America is in need of a system overhaul. We will not get that with Harris Biden or Pete.

    Warren is almost that revolutionary

    Bernie is the guy though...but you’ll never understand what this country is in need of. Maybe some more digging and research on your behalf? I think you’re truly unaware of the fundamental flaws of our system and how bad things truly are around the country for everyday americans
     
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  11. Pazuzu
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    Jun 22, 2019
    Power of the people. Omar, Bernie, AOC understand the ills of our country and know how to fight passionately to bring about real change

    This is what a true fighter for the people does:



    No wishy washy, catering to their rich donors and finding “middle ground” and using constant word salads like Biden Pete Harris Booker etc
     
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    Trump is wiping the floor with whoever emerges imo. Left is eating itself
     
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  13. Pazuzu
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    Lol ok

     
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  14. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jun 22, 2019
    The democratic base is not overwhelmingly “left.” Its largely old & more moderate. That’s why Joe Biden is leading in polls right now by a good amount. It’s why Clinton won the primaries in 16’ by a solid margin.

    I’ve explained to you already that you give candidates you prefer a pass that you otherwise wouldn’t for other. You liking of Tulsi clearly shows that but even Sanders record on Israel that you gloss over. You think anyone who hasn’t upheld this perfect progressive record since the moment they turned 18 is some kind of corporate puppet. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
     
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  15. Pazuzu
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    Jun 22, 2019
    Nah man, the base supports Medicare for all, legalizing weed, tuition free college. All Bernie proposals

    Biden is coasting off Obama’s name recognition

    Hillary had the backing of the dnc, media and name recognition, bro. Bernie was a no namer and the dnc rigged it against him and look how far he went!! He has started a progressive movement

    Tulsi fights more for the average American than Harris booker Biden Pete

    I don’t 100% agree on every single issue of any candidate

    Go by policy for policy, record, donors, etc...

    1. Bernie
    2. Warren
    3. Gabbard

    You need to brush up things. For real. You misread and misinterpret things and don’t have your finger on the pulse of the country like you think

    @Enigma
     
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  16. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jun 22, 2019
    This isn’t even remotely true lol

    You do realize like every single democratic candidate minus maybe one or two support these policies, right?
     
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  17. dna hits
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    Jun 22, 2019
    The majority of Democrats are against weed actually. Harris is just for it medical wise. Biden wants it illegal because he’s an old school piece of s--- who has big pharma stocks. Most Democrats who say they’re for legalizing marijuana are just saying it for votes and don’t mean it. Bernie speaks straight from his heart. They better give him a fair chance at running for the front Democrat. He’s the only one who really stands a good chance against Trump. Biden is literally the worst f---ing Democratic candidate. I know some Democrats who said they won’t even vote for him. Trump would destroy him, and you know it.

    And @Head Bussa Don’t take those polls serious. They at one time had trump as one of the least favorite Republicans when he was running for the party. Only to win. The polls are usually just pushed and manipulated by the elite to try and sway voters to whoever they want in office. The polls were also saying Clinton was a huge favorite against trump. And Enigma said she was going to win by a landslide against Trump. Only for the complete opposite to happen. I was honestly worried about your health at that time Enigma. You’ve been pretty pissed off the last 4 years talking politics. Maybe if Harris could somehow end up as the top running Democrat, I’m more open to vote for her atm over trump. You better not be over hyping her. If I vote for her and lose my gun rights im going to be extremely pissed at you.
     
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  18. Pazuzu
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    @dna hits

    https://www.apnews.com/8eb58810be2642b3a2c81e9da247ff80

    Among Democrats, 76 percent now favor legalization.
     
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  19. Pazuzu
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    Jun 22, 2019
    This is where your bs detector is off

    Look at their donors and weasel words and phrasing when specifically asked about Medicare For All. This can be said for other issues, too, when you look into their donors and who they choose to do fundraising with...Wall Street reform, prison reform, etc...

    Bernie was not a household name in 2015!! Wow. He was not nationally known and it’s wrong to say he was not a no namer to most folks four years ago. He raised his profile because of the policies he supports and how genuine he is. People can look up his record and see that he’s not a mealy mouthed, pro corporate politician like Obama, Harris, Booker, Biden and Petey. That’s why people like him. He is sincere and not just a charismatic, cult of personality politician who is full of s---. He has your back and truly wants to improve the lives of the working class. He’s obviously the best candidate in the Democratic primary. Warren is the second best. Harris is a good bullshitter and puts a spin on things that may seem legit so she might do well in the debates. Her history and record = sketchy though. Her donors....who she’s been fundraising with...oh my...scary. Hillary 2.0.
     
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  20. dna hits
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    Jun 22, 2019
    It should be 100% in 2019 and just pretend Biden doesn’t exist. I know a ton of people even my mom uses CBD cream for her arthritis on her foot and it works better than anything. They need to make it federally legal all together. Prisons will still always be over populated even with weed being legal. People against weed are only against it for their own financial gain. Prisoner owners, investors. Big Pharma stock holders. Older Doctors who were taught it was a gateway drug when young. And all the old people who actually believed their teachers saying weed turns people into murders. Honestly until the oldest generation is gone, is when I see it finally legal at the federal level. Then again, the CIA, DEA and FBI all the police want it to be illegal for easy arrest. It’s a f---ing joke at this point. This plant is saving some people’s lives. I’d much rather have marijuana than my Valium prescription. Opiates are still better for bad Chronic Pain when I pull my back out to where even walking is hard to do. But for minor pain thc should be prescribed instead.
     
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