Politics 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary

Started by Enigma, Feb 19, 2019, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Pazuzu
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    Feb 4, 2020
    Lol, word salad. You can’t bring up basic evidence and get straight to the point.

    So if I state that Biden has never been a friend of the working class and provide articles, history of his not so friendly working class policies, some random tweets backing up my claims, because you love them so much...and then show evidence of years of Bernie’s policies that support the working class and rust belt voters...I know you’ll just dismiss me and go off on another word salad. Got it, thanks.
     
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  2. lil uzi vert stan
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    Feb 4, 2020
    ???? you aren't good at this. and talk about the pot calling the kettle black on 'word salad' accusations. ive been very substantive and measured through (most of lol) this. and pls, the stimulus + passage (actual passage, not campaign bumper sticker u clod) of the ACA more than establishes bidens working class bona fides. could it have gone further? yes sure. again, this is not suddenly bernies turf singularly lol. lets see his record of accomplishment.

    did u ever agree you'd support biden as the nominee btw? just curious if you got distracted by your eerily trumpian missive at poor swizz
     
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  3. Pazuzu
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    Nope. Because all of the evidence I provide of Bernie helping the working class won’t matter. And the evidence I show of Biden hurting the working class won’t matter to you.

    Clod? For real? As a lil jab while discussing politics? Hahahaha ok, man...that explains a lot.

    Your way of discourse isn’t going to get working class voters on your side. You really don’t grasp how haughty you come across.
     
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  4. Goku187
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    I mean, notice your argument has flipped entirely from "we're accepting of all voters, everyone welcome" to "if you're in the same party and prefer a different candidate, I hope you get in a car accident". So maybe you were full of s--- initially when you were pretending the Bernie revolution is a big-tent thing? One minute you're being inclusive and the next you're "not playing nice anymore". These two things don't really reconcile. Andy is right - echoes of Trump there!

    Anyway, this is kind of my point with Bernie. There's absolutely no give on his part, ever, or the part of his supporters, and that historically just isn't how you win people over. Could it be different this time? Of course, we'll see. But I don't see the point in you pretending that the posture of Bernie's core fanbase (particularly online) is anything softer than "my way or the highway". You've decided that anyone who doesn't kneel at the altar of Sanders is a moron so just own it, don't pretend to be more open-minded than you are
     
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  5. lil uzi vert stan
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    Oh I'm fully in control of my tone. Yet again, you're wrong.
     
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  6. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Feb 4, 2020
    I welcome all people to the Bernie Sanders campaign. Even (ugh) Joe Rogan Podcast listeners!

    also how has none of this been called yet lol
     
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  7. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    I’m kinda dumbfounded that those Biden numbers are so low (if they hold/are true that is). Like I figured Pete had a decent shot in the Midwest but double Biden numbers? d---
     
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  8. Pazuzu
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    Just random tweets with useless information!



     
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  9. M Solo
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    Biden can barely put together a complete sentence and when he does he's calling people fatso, challenging them to push up contests or telling them to f--- off and vote for someone else. I'm not surprised about his low numbers.

    I am surprised Booty Judge is doing so well but I'm even more surprised the DNC is blatantly trying to f--- Bernie for somebody who is polling at 0% with minorites. They are gift wrapping Trump another 4 years.
     
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  10. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    I'm gonna be so pissed if I have to vote for mayor pete in the general

    I saw a bit ago that at 62% reporting he's leading in delegates by a bit but Bernie is leading in vote percentage by a bit.
     
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  12. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    For someone like Buttigieg Iowa was pretty much a must-win. For Warren too practically. Biden/Sanders don’t need Iowa.
     
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  13. Pazuzu
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    If Warren continues to fizzle and the remaining three are Biden, Pete and Bernie who are you going with?
     
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  14. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Either Sanders or Biden. Probably Sanders.
     
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  16. Pazuzu
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    Why only 62% released? Why not wait to release the full results? Odd
     
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  17. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    cuz they want people to think pete won until the state of the union and then most people will move onto that and then forget about the caucus and not care by the time they show the actual results
     
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  18. Goku187
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    do you believe this. bc I do
     
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  19. dna hits
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    Nanci made herself look like a little kid. She about had a full breakdown. That wasn’t too bad of a speech under these kind of circumstances. Other than the beginning completely lying about farmers and s---. A lot of farms had to sell ground or lease everything to be able to afford still having their ground.

    I actually like watching Pete talk. I watched him like 4 times so far. If he somehow gets the final full push from the Democrat elite, he could maybe beat trump I think. As long as he’s not totally against gun owner laws and doesn’t try shady s--- to keep people from buying their gun permit.
     
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  20. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    I mean I can't say for certain that's exactly what's going on obviously but it seems strange to me that they delayed everything for "quality control" then only showed 62% of the results and went dark. It feels calculated for sure—they know how a news cycle works. And didn't the DNC basically admit they tried to grease it in favor of Hillary back in 2016? Not sure it would have made a difference in the end back then and I get that a party is going to do everything in its power to push the candidate that they want...but it feels manipulative nonetheless.
     
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