I Need Help Growing SXN80

Started by Slyk, Dec 13, 2019, in Announcements Add to Reading List

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  1. RetiredAccount
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    Dec 16, 2019
    Consolidate Eminem in a single thread
     
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  2. JMG
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    JMG

    Dec 16, 2019
    I feel like we are only considering this because Em is white.
     
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  3. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Dec 16, 2019
    True but people also don't discuss other stuff that much.. even the people that claim to hate eminem constantly bring him up lol.

    Like I said in the long run its better tho
     
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  4. Antman
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    Antman No Cap

    Dec 16, 2019
    I think Eminem is the problem. I think the unwillingness to talk about new, hot artists is the issue lol. We don’t push new artists on banners or sections either. Like I remember when dababy dropped and everyone called him trash and that’s it. Meanwhile he’s the breakout rapper of the year lol.

    we don’t talk about anyone new. n----s here be excited for a new xzibit album
     
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  5. Antman
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    Antman No Cap

    Dec 16, 2019
    And so many people here refer to “mumble rappers” and it’s lame. Like wtf if you not listening to figure, you have something wrong with you. Future is an inspiration in this current age of music, but hes mumble rap trash over here on this forum smh
     
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  6. Boos
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    Boos Nova Nation

    Dec 16, 2019
    The real issue with the Eminem stuff is that his core fan base is so detached from the rest of rap. Like, the majority of them don’t listen to much outside of him and the artists he’s associated with, so it’s hard to get any discussion going for newer stuff. Then when you do make a thread, it gets two replies, gets buried by the em threads, and is more likely than not, not worth the time the OP took to make the thread in the first place.
     
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  7. Bojack
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    Dec 16, 2019
    Υ'all acting like we have people to post and they dont cause of couple em threads in the home page.
     
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  8. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Dec 16, 2019
    This is also not true tbh. I mean I agree w you that Future is great but if you dont listen to him there is nothing wrong with you lmao. Its not for everyone and we don't need to attack people for not liking an artist (except when its coming from a stan - kanye em thug whoever- point of view dismissing every other artist ofc)

    When u dismiss and categorize rappers als mumble rappers as a way to dismiss them, that definitely is f---ing lame. Ur also missing out a lot then tbh

    But, give it a try I guess, hope it will help grow the forum obviously!
     
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  9. Antman
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    Dec 16, 2019
    Missing the point. I’m saying most of this forum has a dust head mentality when everywhere else is more progressive.
     
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  10. Michael Myers
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    Michael Myers Moderator

    Dec 16, 2019
    Both dust and new s--- is awesome if you look at the right places!
     
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  11. Antman
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    Dec 16, 2019
    The point is, dust head mentalities isn’t advancing the forum! It’s cool to like old s---, but we talking how to advance the forum lol n----s ain’t here to talk about 90s rap and only such. We need to push the new and upcoming artists
     
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  12. Antman
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    Antman No Cap

    Dec 16, 2019
    We should be attracting the younger audience
     
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  13. Fire Squad
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Dec 16, 2019
    This^

    The key to really getting this thing back to what it used to be...is getting members. It's been argued before so let me reiterate it; we need to appeal to a demographic of fans that want to discuss their favorite artists in an amiable environment that few other forums offer.

    We attracted a wave of disgruntled users from other forums (KTT, RG, etc.) because we offered a whole different experience, incentives were encouraged, off-topic was a gold mine of equal parts absurdity and activity when music discussion dried up. All on top of a group of staff that really put effort into cultivating new ideas that kept the machine running, we were unstoppable from 15-17.

    A lot of great points and suggestions have been made in this darn thread, it's just a matter of effort and application. Deep down I do hope to see this place rise from the ashes
     
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  14. 831's Finest
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    Dec 16, 2019
    I enjoyed the old neg/rep system, in 99% of cases it reflected accurately how good of a poster you were on here and made for good comedy when Mods had enough of your bs. With main social media sites like Twitter being used so much forums kind of died a bit. I can’t name a forum anymore with activity from 10000+ on at the same time since 10 years ago, let alone 3,000 at prime leak era this decade. Forums need something unique to attract attention and survive, I just couldn’t tell you what that would be atm
     
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  15. Dirty F
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    Dec 18, 2019
    I think those talking about marginalising the Eminem section to help this site grow are off-base. No one in hip hop has ever reached the level of obsessed cult-following fandom Em has had (and inexplicably continues to have...). The new blood for RB and SL was 90% Eminem fans: RB grew because of the D12 connection in the early days (if I remember right the last 2-3 years of its existence there were very few new members who were active and stuck around). SL grew primarily due to Koolo's leaks and the Straight from the Vault EP. Most rappers most listened to song on Spotify is whatever song of theirs features Eminem. Eminem fans also tend to be neekier and more autistic than say Drake or Kendrick (or whichever rapper is hottest atm), which are good traits to target if your aim is to rope people into actively posting on a hip hop message board for years. A lot of these fans can be moulded into good posters over time.

    Anyway, my suggestions:
    1. StudioLeaks should have never been shut down and re-branded. Kendrick stans are mostly part of that cohort of people (teens to early 20s now I guess) who have never used message boards and hold their online music discussions on sites like twitter, facebook or reddit. In the golden era of message boards, there weren't really any websites that EVERYONE seemed to be a member of like FB and Twitter. Once that started happening, the need to scope out smaller online subcultures to find people with similar interests as you diminished. That's okay, and message boards will probably still survive in the long-term as they're better for developing subcultures than huge social media sites owned by big corporations/funded by big money which are used by too many people and which end up pretty sanitised and censorious because the media will jump on anything controversial, and they have shareholders they're accountable to. But the rebrand from SL to S.80 (and the need for every single member of SL to re-register on a completely new site...one which had no downloads at all) hurt this site.
    Even if Koolo stopped leaking, the eternal branding that site had from dropping so many leaks was gold...even now on youtube videos of the songs Koolo leaked there's often a lot of comments talking about StudioLeaks and Koolo...no mention ever of SectionEighty. There is no reason for anyone to ever find this site really. Dropping a tape of unreleased songs from the highest selling artist of the 21st century was basically a great marketing move that would have lasted for pretty much the rest of eternity. But it was wasted when the site was completely re-branded, just because Koolo stopped actively leaking.
    2. Downloads section: I don't know about the legality behind this nowadays, but the downloads section is what kept me coming back to RB in my first couple years when I didn't really give a s--- about the rest of the site and didn't post much. By force of habit of logging in every day to check the new singles posted, I eventually checked out the rest of the site and became active. Without the downloads section I probs wouldn't have logged in much in my first year, and then forgot about it completely. If it is at all possible to have a Downloads section (preferably hidden to guests) then I think this would be a great idea to help the site grow.
    3. Censorship: Probably a bit controversial, but what helped me to stick around on RB (and get more actively involved in the non-music discussions) was the trolling, savagery and lack of censorship. It stood out from the other hip hop boards I had been on, which were a lot more sanitised and PG. And probably contributed to me ending up solely on RB and forgetting all about the other 2-3 I used to check occasionally. I think a totally uncensored website (perhaps only bans for illegal content) would be a bold move and would stand out and attract the type of people who might make this site vaguely interesting again (JMG types, but not as old and washed up). I guess also most people who have the time to post 20-30x a day are teens, and teens love being able to say whatever the f--- they want without having a finger wagged at them (or being permaban'd).

    I think that's all I can suggest because I don't use S.80 enough to comment on much else. I will say I really hate the design of this site. It's too clean and the way we have to navigate it (sections at the top) doesn't seem intuitive, but that could just be me.

    I do miss this system
     
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  16. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Dec 18, 2019
    basically just the first sentence:
    pretty f----- we post on a hip hop forum about rappers who say s--- like "how come jews own everything?" but if I said the same i'd be banned
     
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  17. Zeugma
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    Zeugma thugger thugger my brother

    Dec 18, 2019
    ... just want to say that I totally agree with coco & dirty f here
     
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  18. JMG
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    JMG

    Dec 18, 2019
    Sounds like u just want a bunch of teenage boys around. Let's not act like today's youth would ever have the edge that I did. They don't make them like me no more. Last of a dying breed.. I'm still in my 20s though and have one more run in me. You cant bring up all the censorship and say I'm washed when I thrived on controversy and had to adapt to the PC culture. I think I've done a good job with that. I understand some posters like you couldnt though.
     
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  19. Zeugma
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    Zeugma thugger thugger my brother

    Dec 18, 2019
    @Slyk so what do you think about these 6 pages of discussion m8?
     
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  20. Dirty F
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    Dec 18, 2019
    I just wanted to see if I could still make you rage, I'm glad I've still got it.
     
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