Oct 31, 2020

Qanon is just The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion repurposed with the word "Jew" replaced with "Democrat."

 

Oct 31, 2020

yes I wanted him to win so bad that I didn’t vote for him, cope harder

 

Oct 31, 2020

Prove it.

 

Oct 31, 2020

didn’t take a pic but I voted for Gary Johnson and Bernie in the primaries sooo

 

Oct 31, 2020

Haven’t read any of this thread yet, haven’t personally decided who I’m voting for. Was speaking with SL about it yesterday and saw/heard mention of ppl surprised ppl down in Texas aren’t making the “never Trump” vote, and ima just be honest:

If u live along the gulf coast in tx/la and ur not voting red you’re shooting yourself in the foot. The only party that’s consistently appeased the petrochemical industry is the GOP, and in the grand scheme of things I absolutely wouldn’t support that vote if I didn’t live here, but I do, and the proposal of asking some of the most exploited working class members I know to forego their financial security whenever that is literally the only thing keeping Houston’s economy from becoming another Detroit, seems a bit ludicrous. The entire motif behind leftism, and even the more per formative liberalism, is that helping others and making the status quo better is the right thing to do. With as much as a vote for biden is simply pure damage control, and with how one of the areas that would suffer most would be mine, it adds an interesting layer of nuance. It’s why Trump campaigned in the appalachians and middle America.

what the GOP has realized, that many leftists haven’t, is that appeals to impoverished areas’ wallets will do far more wonders than any lip service about civil reform, or economic reform that explicitly cuts back on the petro/energy industries without pushing for a viable alternative.

 

Oct 31, 2020

all that to say, the never Trump ideology only makes sense in certain circles. There’s a reason exploited working class are voting for him. If joe shmo has to pick between food on his table and the support of like 1/4 of the left for showing “solidarity” and voting for the “morally correct” choice, I think homeboys gonna choose stability

 

Oct 31, 2020

That wasn’t quite the exchange. It was just why he purposefully snubbed Biden on an otherwise progressive ballot. But let’s talk about energy, bc I certainly hear you and totally get your pov. The fact is biden has made great strides and risked a lot politically by threading the needle he has on oil and fracking. What he purposes I think, is the reality, which I can speak to from my irl work w energy companies. Sustainability isn’t going away, it’s not just “better for the environment” (appealing to people’s moralism, as leftists do) bur increasingly its the right economic choice - more affordable, more efficient, better jobs. It’s not just progressive startups doing this- major oil conglomerates are getting in the business in a major way. So a transition, as Biden proposes, isn’t merely the right thing, it’s what is happening and what needs to happen for the US to remain energy independent. So let’s maintain the status quo, don’t throw the baby out w the bathe water while keeping an eye to the future

Texas is increasingly purple as u know, and every vote counts. Thinking otherwise, or thinking Biden is out to destroy anyone’s livelihood, simply isn’t the case

 

Oct 31, 2020

that being said f--- Trump there’s a million reasons not to vote for him, if I didn’t live here and see how it affects us first hand I wouldn’t be saying anything to the contrary. but it’s not as simple as that and hopefully by 2024 ppl will realize how important catering to working class is

 

Oct 31, 2020

You were retweeting Bernie Sanders & Andrew Yang like 2 months ago lmao stop it.

 

Oct 31, 2020

bruh... imagine being like “I like Bernie. His policy ideas are legit!” & then casting a vote for Gary Johnson lmao. Like wuttttt?

 

Oct 31, 2020

@FiveOh1 went from Bernie to Jo Jorgansenn lol... like yes, go from the candidate who wants to reign in big business to the candidate who wants unmitigated corporatism

 

Oct 31, 2020

Literally no rational sense. People really fall susceptible to false narratives, especially with Clinton. The amount of bs conspiracies surrounding her name undoubtedly scared some voters away imo. Like they don’t even gotta understand the accusation; how many voters were turned off from Clinton because of one keyword: “emails.”

 

Oct 31, 2020

both good people, yes

 

Oct 31, 2020

Who vehemently oppose Donald Trump & everything he stands for. Who are supporting Joe Biden.

 

Oct 31, 2020

Okay you're still sane. I loathed Biden throughout the primaries and wanted Yang or Bernie to get the nom. I went back and forth with @cpt awesome WPG joint acc about it most of last year. However once Covid hit and I watched how badly Trump fumbled that I've got to roll with Biden. I want normalcy back and as long as this fat, s--- for brains moron is president it might be years. Aside from Covid just sitting back and watching what has happened with RBG and Trump's bs antics the last 5 months it's my opinion that if I ever want to see Andrew Yang or somebody like him be president Biden HAS to win. If Trump wins and gets another 4 years it's a wrap for anybody like that getting into office in our lifetime.


And for everybody else it's good to see Trent and his family are busy this morning

 

Oct 31, 2020

Fair, I was being reductive and half facetious anyways. Just wanted to use that context as a jumping off point

I mostly see the logic in this, but Biden’s plans will still result in layoffs in most of the oil fields and plants currently, much more so than trumps proposals (from what I’ve read, I do mostly parrot economic opinions of those I perceive to be more in tune tho lol)

the push to diff energy industries just seems a little too late to me, at this point yes we should do it but the dems need to do more to appeal to the voter base here other than promising we’ll only go a little broke

 

Oct 31, 2020

I think you’re overrating the short term impacts of his plan, but the key phrase here is “more than trump”. Like yeah trump wants it to be 1980. And again I think long term his plan will put the country at a significant economic disadvantage. We can have our cake and eat it too. Let’s Walk and chew gum.

again this is one of those cases where dems are being faulted for republican intransigence . I do agree Dems have been losing the messaging war w lmc families for a number of reasons - which is exactly why it was smart to nominate Biden, who lacks Obama’s or Hillary’s (occasional) tendency to come across as detached or holier than thou. But let’s not lose the thread who the villains are here.

like Texas iirc is second in clean energy jobs... last year “renewable energy, battery storage and energy efficiency grew 4 percent in Texas, nearly twice as fast as the overall employment rate”. The revolution is here, already. Like trump poo poos wind while pretending oil is the only indsutry folks in Texas need to survive—— wind is huge in Texas! And only growing faster

“Renewable energy will provide the most job growth for Texans in the next few years, employment projections show.” (Not quoting bs qanon YouTube either lol. This is houston chronicle)

 

Oct 31, 2020

Way, way, way, waaaaay more US oil production under the Obama administration than under the George W. Bush administration.


Oil company managment usually just like to scare the employees into voting Republican with the threat of layoffs because the top wants them tax cuts for the rich.

 

Oct 31, 2020

[cryptic or misinformed post that flirts w Troubling conservative rabbit holes]: @Donkey Kong Cuntry like
[me, thoughtfully making the case for why renewable energy is the humane and economic Answer for working families]: no Like

No virtue signaling! I’m the true progressive!