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Started by Kon, May 28, 2020, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

    May 28, 2020
    i was in the 2004 red sox riot and saw a cop car get overturned. (also saw my first pair of college boobies heh). later a girl died, shot in the face.

    so this is v real to me.
     
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  2. RetiredAccount
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

    May 28, 2020
    Snelgrove? she was shot by an officer not a rioter

    and the officer is still working for boston pd
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2020
    ^owned
     
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  4. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

    May 28, 2020
    yes i know that. i was there (note: no doce, not saying I SAW IT happen)
    but my point stands. this isnt abstract to me. sports or no sports it breaks families

    why are you trying to hurt me today?
     
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  5. RetiredAccount
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

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    the police are the culprit, not the rioters. they are breaking families. they are causing this.
     
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    Guma

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    Because your idiocy spreads through social media here.
     
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  7. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

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    well in the case of red sox - which again, i was there - iirc beyond the fact the officer had mishandled firing the pepper spray pellet (which yes, was deeply wrong) the crowd was also culpable in that they didnt get the f out of the way so she could be brought to brighams like a half mile away. so again, its easy and perhaps 'fun' to call out the officer and the organization itself... bc those are known entities who can be labelled negligible. what i grapple with if the fact those rioters shouldnt have been there, and by their own indifference contributed to her death.

    thats fine u and wpg disagree. but firsthand, the lack of unaccountability in mobs - let alone applauding them - personally affronts me.
     
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

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    there would have been a crowd afterwards, riot or not. its not their fault she died, at all. it's entirely the officers. she wasn't rioting and she was there. or is she at fault too
     
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  9. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

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    dude are u serious? it was a MOB not merely a crowd of ppl leaving a game. you cant imagine it i guess. its all rhetorical unless u were there.
     
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    Either way, to say its the MOBs fault and not the cops is just wrong. he was given a potentially lethal weapon and was negligent in using it.
     
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  11. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    May 28, 2020
    I mean I’d educate myself on the whole situation before commenting on it to give yourself context.

    Here's my thing: I understand being against looting. I'm not faulting anyone for that belief (I'm mostly a pacifist myself). At the same time, many of the people I always see who are most outspoken about being anti-looting in situations like this? I never hear a f---ing peep from them when police murder someone because of their race. This is possibly the most clear-cut case of police murdering someone with excessive force in recent history to the point that even other cops are speaking out against these dudes. So when people show up being outspoken about Target getting smashed up and haven't ever shown outrage about murders like these it shows me where their priorities are. To be clear I'm not accusing you or anyone of being pro-police brutality or racism, I'm just suggesting that people should reevaluate how they think about issues like these.

    It reminds me of how people fixate on false r--- accusations instead of fixating on, you know, maybe stopping r---? Are false r--- accusations horrible? Of course, but if these people showed the kind of support they do to r--- victims that they do to people who were falsely accused, maybe we'd be progressing faster as a society.

    I think this encapsulates it well:
    Chris Brown was falsely accused of r--- (a matter that was solved in a number of days) and his reaction was to print and sell DAT b---- LYIN' shirts

    Freddie Gibbs was falsely accused of r--- and spent a year in foreign trials in overseas prisons and his reaction was "this isn't a reason to not believe women, my situation was rare"
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    people always accuse us of having americanized view of the world (which to be fair often happens!) and then they try to look at american politics/society through the lens of their third world shitholes like the netherlands @Michael Myers :narshDM:
     
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  13. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

    May 28, 2020
    Quick question - did you read what I said? Yes the police was wrong to have obtained that weapon, he was wrong to have fired and to have fired so poorly.

    But the situation was aggravated by the fact there were tens of thousands of drunk NEU, BU, BC, MIT etc students - not protesting injustice - but showing extraordinary poor judgement. It’s not possible or even warranted to charge them w anything obviously but morally there’s absolute culpability. That’s my point. Pls reflect on it instead of doubling down.
     
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  14. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 28, 2020
    throwing this out there: people protesting state murders and drunk kevin youkilis fans are not the same. in the latter situation the presence of a mob certainly allows boorish, pointless destruction without personal accountability. in the former the presence of a mob protects protesters from being killed like floyd was.
     
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    RetiredAccount Big Time Stuntin Like My Daddy

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    my point stands in general the anti-riot crowd tends to speak up only when the riot stems from pro-black protests. maybe anecdotally you don't relate, but overall it seems to be a trend
     
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  16. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

    May 28, 2020
    Gee u don’t say. I was responding to a post by grimace about why people don’t object to sports rioting, and sharing my own experience for u to learn from

    Pls look inward
     
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  17. lil uzi vert stan
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    lil uzi vert stan

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    Nah ur point is trash. Charlottesville b----.
     
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  18. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    sure but you’re using the effects the sox crowd had — and the dynamics that facilitated them — to inform your take on the mpls protesters, and i’m not sure that tracks!!!!!!! johnny damon was a b----
     
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    May 28, 2020
    *looks at OP and discussion itt*

    I'm glad I live in a well developed country like the Netherlands :)
     
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    lil uzi vert stan

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    Mobs can sometimes be bad. Mobs ran the Th*mps*ns out of Canada!
     
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