May 25, 2017 IDK, when I watched the prequels, minus the Phantom Menace battle between Maul and Obi/Qui Gonn, I felt they were visually cool, but not really threatening. When I watched the original trilogy, I felt every swing could be a death blow. But hey to each their own.
May 25, 2017 see i want that visual spectacle from star wars fights it's always had that and pushed for more each movie. and the 'threatening' aspect isn't something i rly get either way. it just looks like clumsy, slow moving swings in the OT to me and i know they were only like that because of the technological issues behind the lightsabers at the time, so it's even more apparent on re-watches. reminds me of the whole "PT fights look like a dance" thing. it's never bothered me at all. especially not when SW is sort of like a space opera, a play rly, so it fits perfectly with the rest of the it all and feels far more interesting to me tbh, far more replayable.
May 25, 2017 I hope Last Jedi can appease both fans of Star Wars, and I honestly hope they have more references to the prequels. I'm not the BIGGEST fan of the prequels, but I thought Rogue One did some really cool callbacks to them (Bail Organa and Vader's castle on Mustafar). I've said it before, the prequels aren't as bad as people make it seem, I just think they could've been executed way better. But, I also understand the love for them. I'm kind of in the middle about them, but I don't think they should be shunned from the new trilogy.
May 25, 2017 on the topic of rogue one, i need to actually sit and watch that still. i had a copy of it, played it for my parents and started watching it but wasn't rly in the mood to commit to the full sitting of it so i got bored like 4 minutes in and went to do something else for a bit and missed 99% of the movie while my parents watched the rest. came back in time for vader vs the rebels tho and i mean, i'm by no means like a fan of everything about the PT either, but there's a lot of stuff from both trilogies i'm not a big fan of. and i rly just don't like how 7 basically took the things i disliked about the OT and essentially doubled down on them in an attempt to get away from anything to do with the PT at all (while simultaneously rehashing a lot of the OT). also i'm still salty af about JJ Abrams and co. for their not so subtle (and pretty hypocritical at times) PT shunning during the lead up to the release, so f--- them but anyway i was about to post it honestly sucks to be a SW fan sometimes because there is a very real and very big divide between a lot of fans regarding so many things and i honestly have no idea how it could ever be solved because the taste difference just really makes it hard for either side to concede much. one side wants more artsy and dramatic stuff, the other side wants more realistic and grounded stuff and there's no real compromise between those two stances i think
May 25, 2017 I'm probably not going to see The Last Jedi... For one, it seems like Disney's new trilogy is just a rehash of the old trilogy. They have a new Empire, a new Rebellion, the ships are the same and the plots are almost 100x identical. There were some new elements but really, it didn't bring anything new to the table it was just a rehash. If The Last Jedi turns out to be like "The Empire Strikes Back" then well, we're in for disappointment; and I'm guessing it will be a rehash of "The Empire Strikes Back".
May 25, 2017 Neither Rey nor Fin have been trained to use a lightsaber... you expect them to start doing flips and s--- like Yoda? Kylo is the last remaining force user (as is believed)... so he's never had to train because who would possibly be a threat to him? and so he's s--- at fighting as well...not to mention before the fight he took a blasterbolt to the chest which is super powerful... these things make sense once you take in account the actual story/timeline. As for the weight of the lightsabers... they were always meant to be heavy as Lucas said himself... it's just that eps1-3 showcase just how powerful those jedi were in their prime... able to weird them so quickly as if they were light weight
May 25, 2017 people been shi--ing on TFA hard for that Kylo s---... i'm just like... 1. they had a scene specifically showing the bowcaster blow 2 armored stormtroopers into the f---ing shadow realm just 2. Kylo takes a direct hit to his very protective sand robe 3. Blood shoots out of it 4. losing blood in snow = rapid loss of heat to me it was pretty obvious he's trying to focus his power on staying the f--- alive. Snoke has been telling this fairly young "Warrior" that he's the last force user apart from a retired disappeared Luke. One day some f---ing homeless c---- turns up and without any training is a strong enough force user to block him from reading her mind, then the next time she shows up, it's with his grandfathers lightsaber... like his brain would have been fried with rage. That imo, is the only problem with TFA. they had 2 scenes showing Kylo go ape s---, but in the end he's more humanized by crying about killing old mate. If they had of had him schiz the f--- out in the last half hour/hour of the film I think it would have been a much better reflection of Anakin's side showing. Like both of them let rage get the better of them and nearly k--- them (one being heavily wounded/incapacitated on lava, the other on snow), feel they really missed a cool lil thing there with that.
May 25, 2017 My issue with the PT really isn't the special effects, because what was Star Wars supposed to do? During that time period, movies were using more and more CGI, and it was too tempting not to use. Like, I totally understand why they used it. Even though I think they might've went overboard in hindsight, and the CGI is kind of outdated, it doesn't bother me as much. There's just things in the story I really wanted to see used more or less. Here's a few: 1. Anakin as a teenager or young adult as a brutalized slave, without his mother. Tortured, beaten... We see why he has so much anger in him and a desire for control. 2. Anakin finds his mother, kinda like he did on Tatooine, and a similar death, but it's more drawn out. I felt like this part of the saga was so interesting, but it was SO short. 3. Jedi vs Sith war. I wanted more Sith. I hated the idea of the "2" thing. They could've had dozens of them vs dozens of Jedi, and maybe Anakin and Emperor k--- both sides off. I also think Maul shouldn't have been killed off. 4. Feel like Padme should've been hidden on Alderraan with Leia for a couple of years, so it aligned with Leia's description of her mom in Return of the Jedi. Maybe had Leia and Luke born in the beginning of the third movie. Have Anakin turn evil in the beginning. Maybe Yoda and Obi Wan fake Padme/Leia/Luke's deaths and hide them (as their own families die during the Jedi/Sith Purge). And I'm sure they can somehow fit in Anakin vs Obi Wan and Yoda vs Sidious somewhere. 5. Qui Gonn and Obi Wan should've saved Anakin from slavery in a more dramatic way. Like maybe they were on a covert mission to free slaves because they heard about it on Tattooine. Then they free them, and meet Anakin. He asks them for help, or something, to go find his mother. IDK. Something of that sort. 6. One of the things I LOVED was Palpatine being manipulative, within the senate, and with Anakin. I'm not really bothered by how Palpatine manipulated either situation. I like how he seemed like a good guy, until the reveal. 7. Like the Clone Army, because it aligns with the OT. I like the double cross, but I would've loved it, if the clones were used to wipe out the Jedi AND the Sith, while they were both in a full on battle. 8. I HATED how they dehumanized the Jedis. I understand they're like monks and need to be dedicated, but did they need to have their values be so robotic and emotionless? It really pigeon-holed the storyline. Love shouldnt have been repressed at all. They should've all had families, like soldiers or police. It would've gave depth to Yoda and Obi Wan too (imagine them being on the Degobah and Tattooine after losing their families to Anakin/Emperor). IDK, just some things I've always thought about in regards to the prequels.
May 25, 2017 im well aware of the story reasons lol doesn't change anything about the fight being lame to me. yea, he's wounded, yeah he's not as skilled as the jedi in their prime and neither are finn or rey they didn't have to take this approach however (and could have easily circumvented this given the narrative there with lukes jedi academy and rey/kylo), and because they decided to, it crippled the potential choreography. that's on them when was the last time he said that exactly? and how many times has he changed his mind over the course of the saga with regards to the details of things and/or given an alternate reason for something in the past to explain a fault after the fact? also, yes, the technology of the time during the filming of the original trilogy made the choreography difficult and impacted it. that's not even debatable simple fact of the matter is, lightsabers are not heavy. that's complete and utter garbo and is completely illogical given what lightsabers are ffs
May 25, 2017 yea and the whole thing with CGI was it was just the next step in terms of special effects, and SW was ALWAYS pushing that idea. in fact, the OT got s--- on by some critics when they came out because they thought the movies were just generic blockbusters with an over-reliance on special effects and sacrificed story for it, on top of having wooden dialogue (the same critiques lobbed at the PT) but we've essentially all but forgotten about that bit of history.. this is one of the reasons that as dated as any of the CGI might be, i just cannot stand to see this come up as a talking point on why the PT sucks so often (especially when they used more practical effects each than the entire OT combined). anyway, onto the rest don't rly care one way or another about changes to him as a slave/his mother and the death agreed on the rule of 2 bs, and i would have liked to have seen far more throughout. and yeah, maul dying at the end of TPM s----d... he could've been even more awesome while i'm fine with the way it plays out, it is a continuity error for sure (not that the saga's not filled with tons of them or anything but ehhh). don't know that it could be changed to that way tho without also heavily altering the other 2 PT movies though, as it would significantly rush things otherwise would've been nice, though the role the jedi had during the PT with the republic would not allow for that palpatines manipulations were some of my favorite parts of the PT... and honestly, i can't get the criticisms for all the politics s---. i thought it all came together pretty nicely and heavily impacted things with his manipulations again, agreed, would've been cool if the sith had been around for something like that i agree it does make them more flawed, but i think that's nice for the story. shows that the jedi aren't perfect, and they were misguided (one of a few things which ultimately lead to their down fall and near extinction within the saga.
May 25, 2017 rly tho i'd b fine if after this trilogy this whole era of SW was abandoned entirely, and they took it back to the KOTOR 1/2 eras and made a trilogy or two out of that stuff. there's too much fan conflict in the current saga and waaaaay too many issues with continuity and the like at this point and i have to say, it's all far more interesting than the saga of anakin/luke, and the whole moral dilemma with how the jedi act and feel vs the sith is heavily addressed in the 2nd game and pretty dark and handled fantastically, and there's a s--- load of dark jedi during those times as well and a multitude of sith lords that all make better villains than the ones in the saga
May 25, 2017 Palpatine was hands down the best thing about the PT. And I loved the political stuff, I don't understand the hate for that either. It brought a new element to Star Wars that the Original didn't have. But yeah, I thought the plot points were great, i just wish they were executed way better. and enhanced the best parts of the prequels. Anakin as a slave, his mother's death, the Sith, the Jedi, the births of Leia/Luke, hiding them, Emperor's manipulations, the politics, the use of the clone army (which I wasn't really upset about). Then again, there's things about the originals that I don't like either. I thought the entire Han rescue sequence was forced in Return of the Jedi, not to mention Ewoks defeating the Empire lol. I hated that even more than the robot factory and bug battle in Attack of the Clones lol.
May 25, 2017 nihilus, treya, sion, malak, revan, malgus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vader, palatine, grievous, dooku, maul, kylo and it's not even close
May 25, 2017 @Cyreides What gives me hope for Last Jedi is I truly believe they're going to be delving into a lot of gray area with the light and dark sides of the force. I loved Force Awakens, because I honestly think it brought some new elements to Star Wars, yet I totally agree about the plot. The structure is definitely A New Hope. However, I think it set up some things to expand on within the SW universe, and hopefully they execute it correctly. I REALLY hope Rey is a random person though. I think it'd be so fresh for the franchise and it'd expand the story line further. I hope Finn's life is explored more. Finn was a big disappointment to me, not because of the portrayal, but the background. I wanted an inside look into the First Order's recruitment tactics, brainwashing, etc. Instead, he never had malfunctions, and he was a sanitation worker. I felt that was used for comedy purposes, which was bs to me. And I like Kylo as a character. I'm intrigued about Snoke... and I'm ready to see what power and knowledge Luke possesses.
May 25, 2017 i just hope they can pull off the supposed grey jedi thing and not do a complete disservice to star wars when it comes to that, since they have amazing things like the KOTOR games (especially 2) to pull from on that topic who knows tho, maybe they will pull from that for it since they already pulled from revans look for kylo on the topic of rey, i agree unless that weird theory floating around that somehow rey was a reincarnation of anakin were true... i'd definitely be okay with that since I honestly think that spices up the whole chosen one thing quite a bit, and brings the trilogies full circle while explaining somethings. also just a nice nod to the PT but ye if she just turns out to be the daughter of luke etc. f--- that lol finn was definitely lacking in background. would have liked and did expect more from that. also, on that topic, thank god phasma is coming back. hopefully she'll actually serve a purpose this time around and won't be completely wasted like she was in 7. christie is an awesome actor and her character is just too neat to die off like it seemed
