Feb 3, 2015 Read the rest of comments im done lmao. Gave this thread way more attention than it deserved.
Feb 3, 2015 its hype wasn't just on SL lol. Yeezus was by far one of the biggest album of the year for casual fans of hip hop as well. It was a staple at every and any party I went to. So because you don't like something that makes others tasteless for liking it? Maybe if we're talking about a universally hated project, but Yeezus was critically acclaimed. It was a huge part of 2013 as a whole. A lot of your criticism is unfounded (just because you mention dead composers you heard about in music class back in 3rd grade doesn't mean you had any valid points), and YOU haven't really defended anything you've said. The "tasteless yeezy stans" are actually the ones trying to explain what the like and dislike about Yeezus/Kanye in general. All you needed to say was you didn't like Yeezus/current Kanye, but you went to try and make objective statements that were just false. opinions are fine, but don't confuse them for fact. you already said you like "rap-ish bass heavy beats" like what Dre makes, so obviously He'll never see how that works lol >Beyonce is a good singer. fact. >Some people like her music, some people dont. >Eminem is a very capable rapper. fact. >Eminem makes pretty average music nowadays, a lot of people don't like it. A lot of people still do. You get how this works yet? No, that's not how it works lol. If you didn't enjoy an album, that means you don't like it. If somebody doesn't enjoy Revolver, that doesn't mean it's a bad album. It's still an all time classic. If they take the time to expand on what they don't like, what's bad about it, etc. Put it in stone - then good for them, they'll have the only bad review of Revolver ever in existence lol The album will still be considered overwhelmingly incredible, but there will now be people out there who've made arguments for it being bad. Not enjoying something simply = not liking it. That doesn't mean it's bad or good. There's no objective statement to be made aside from liking it or not liking at that point. That's all. Expanding on why you did or didn't like it/providing an actual argument, and THEN calling it good or bad = being objective. What you're doing is being 12
Feb 3, 2015 my roommates and i were ALL just talking about this yesterday lol. f---ing awesome album - i underrated it myself for the longest time (if "really really good but not incredible" is considered underrating it)
Feb 3, 2015 + * I never heard any Yeezus song playin in any party at all. I have friends in USA too I've never hear any Yeezus song playing in their snaps too. * Yeezus is only had positive reviews by American critics. NOT UNIVERSALLY! And who are those critics to judge how good something is! According to them MMLP wasn't good but people listened to it like crazy and everybody bought it. Critics don't mean s---! People do. * Most of the people like Beyonce and listen to her so yes she is a good singer. * Not enjoying it means it bad for me. I never said it's a fact that Yeezus is bad. I just gave my opinions. When I'm sayin it's bad of course it's my opinion you don't have to feel the same. EDIT: Btw they're not the composers I heard in music class I really do listen to them rarely.
Feb 3, 2015 So your snapchats/overseas experiences are more valid than me actually being in a college, in a college town, actually in the US? Not to mention Blood on the Leaves/Hold My Liquor were 100000000% played all over the place in the states and you saying other wise is just wrong. How do you know that? Show me. All 46 of these professional critics are American? http://www.metacritic.com/music/yeezus/kanye-west I'm actually asking - not being condescending. Show me proof to back up what you're saying. They're professional critics. Lmao what do you mean by "them." Who's "them?" Are you saying the SAME EXACT PEOPLE who reviewed MMLP back in the day and gave it a low score reviewed and gave Yeezus a high one? What? lol And MMLP was universally acclaimed after a very short period of time as well, so what's your point? I get that just because a critic says something is good doesn't mean it is, but none of the points you're making are relevant. Like I said, this is fine. But after you say you don't like it, you can't go around making objective statements about horrible production, etc without ANY PROOF. If it's horrible because you don't like it - then that doesn't work. If you don't like the production, that means it's not your taste. It could also be bad, but it doesn't have to be. Like, in reverse, I could say I don't like Dre production because it has too much bass. But I wouldn't say his beats with a lot of bass are horrible or that he's a bad producer just because what he did isn't the style I like. I would say he's bad if he actually made a s-----y beat. The production on Yeezus isn't s--- - even if it's not to your preference.
Feb 3, 2015 Just want to point out as a counter argument to the statement of Yeezus not getting played in social events that one time I was out mudding in east Texas and I heard dudes bumping Blood On The Leaves... If southern rednecks bumping it at redneck social events doesn't convince you of how big Yeezus was then nothing will
Feb 3, 2015 Yeah I mean people talk a lot about Kanye's solo albums but WTT always gets kind of, I don't know, ignored for some reason. It feels like a Kanye ft. Jay album, but it was, and still is imo Jay's best work since AG and the chemistry they had on it >>. Except for Lift Off, mostly because it had so much more potential and maybe Made In America, I love every song on it. Really hoping for a part 2 some day
Feb 3, 2015 f--- you, you're mentally ill if you think he's overrated. Yeezus hasn't dropped a weak album, no bad tracks, no bad beats. NOTHING. Most flawless artist in hip-hop.
Feb 3, 2015 Lol how would anybody dance to Hold my Liquor. Sorry but really hard to believe I don't know if I'm right but they couldn't get airplay in US too probably. I know they never play Yeezus in europe. You know they are all american critics. Few foreign people could be there too but doesn't change the fact that it's based on American critics' views. Yeah critics are critics. They gave low scores to arguably the best rap album ever MMLP. And being a critic doesn't make your opinion on music objective or more important than any regular person. If I say something that's my opinion and I can think anything I want PERIOD. You can say anything you want doesn't change anything at all. It's just the opinion and all that matters the people because music for the people
Feb 3, 2015 First of all I wasn't saying the hype for that album was only on SL. I said I never understood the hype for it on SL, meaning that is the only hiphop forum I went to at the time. Never said only SL hyped it. Stop bending my statements. I agree that I did not elaborate it enough, but I meant pretty much the same what you are saying. If you don't like the project and state the reasons for it (I left this part out, since I figured that was obvious for everyone not 12 years old), then you can very well call it good or bad. I also agree that some albums are critically acclaimed (or whatever the term is here), thus negative opinions of those albums are totally a minority (almost neglectable). I feel as though, and this is again just my opinion, that Yeezus isn't as critically acclaimed as the example you brought. Yes positive perceptions are the majority definitely, overall it was received positively. However there is still a strong population of listeners who find it bad. But opinions are the only thing we have in music, no facts. Also any reviewer/person having an opinion can try to be as objective as possible, in the end he/she still is subjective. Only quantifiable things are objectively measurable (mostly natural sciences). Art (as not a natural science) definitely is measured subjectively in the end.
Feb 3, 2015 Someone's not bad just because you don't like them, why is this so hard to understand lol How old are you @CSA ?
Feb 3, 2015 Tech n9ne is good but I don't like him Taylor Swfit is good but I don't like her J Cole is good but I don't like him that much
Feb 3, 2015 Yeezus is bad. Cuz I think it's bad. You can call something you don't like bad cuz if it was good for you, you'd have liked it I'm 18.
