Dec 21, 2020 It's not valid points. I'm not saying it HASN'T been released as a deluxe. It is a deluxe album release, yes. What I am saying is - a CD with SIXTEEN new tracks, clearly crafted as a separate album is a new album! Regardless how you fkn package it or what you call it. Forget the technicalities of what it s referred to as a release product - a new CD of 16 tracks is a fkn album lol.
Dec 21, 2020 honestly i dont even get whats to argue there. they literally listed it as a deluxe album, not sold as a standalone nowhere and sales wont even count as a new album. so you re basically saying to me that a deluxe edition, with its sales counted as mtbmb is a different album just cause it has 13 new tracks.
Dec 21, 2020 7 songs. Of s--- which didn't make the original. Not 16 fkn songs, with skits, and put together as an entirely new album, with a new sound and new style. You're the one brainwashed by how they released it and what they're calling it lmao instead of just seeing reality. He put together 16 tracks of new material he made after the original. Then packaged it as a deluxe. This material is clearly recent and different.
Dec 21, 2020 I'm saying F the argument about how it's defined by Billboar,d or even Em's team or the technicalities of what a deluexe is lol.... it is a deluxe album release - AGREED. Will be counted as such - AGREED. I am saying it IS - in reality - a new album! Still. He made this after the orginal and put together a whole new album, this is a crafted full album, not just a handful of tracks which didn't make the original cut, like bonus tracks, which is what a deluxe usually always is.
Dec 21, 2020 but yeah bro that's the point what you're saying is not always what it actually is. Also have you thought about the fact that on double albums Side B has to be around the same length as Side A ? Everywhere you look for this new "album" you can't buy it bro. How is that possible for an album to be out and no one can own it? lmao I get what you're saying, you're sad and mad that such a great project is not a stand alone album, I get it but that doesn't change the truth. Me personally I love that is not a new album and it's part of the MTBMB it makes it more solid and on personal level I wouldn't love another Em official album in his discography where he talks only about haters and how much music has changed. Having this next to Side A works perfect.
Dec 21, 2020 Cool whilst you do that, I'm gonna watch that really cool movie Fast and Furious 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.
Dec 21, 2020 Yeah I am annoyed at how it's released, because look at the death of interest... because 'deluxe editions' of albums usually include a couple of tracks which didn't make the cut. It's a confusing and damaging way to release a whole new collection of songs he clearly made as a new album. And deluxe editions have a terrible track record of sales, so I have no idea why they would do that. On the new Alfred intro he even says 'music to be buried by', would have been perfect sequel title. I would have loved it like this if it was released like this as a double album - just called Music to Be Murdered By. And it was a double album. But they had the release of 'side a' f you wanna say, and now this... is a whole new album, which people have just reacted to as if it's the original with a few bonus cuts. Total waste.
Dec 21, 2020 it has the quality of a new album yes. but technically it serves as a second side to a double album and they treat it like that for whatever reason. probably he wanted to mix those those tracks that didnt make the cut with some new ones. It would be easy for him to just wait one or two more months and release it with a different title as something new but it wouldnt be really optional to have the same idea recycled as a new album, plus if he release one new next year it will be a new style maybe with smoother flows like he uses a lot after mtbmb
Dec 21, 2020 I personally don't believe any of these tracks are from the original sessions. All the production is different, and all the tracks sound as one in that sense, and Em's rap styles throughout are different and much more similar to recent styles (and writing is much sharper, and rapping is denser) he's used on Moon Man and Detroit Cypher aka I think he saw the reaction and decided to make a sequel, which is what this is. I don't care how it's released and packaged lol, this is clearly a sequel, not leftovers. It's just a shame. For him. Because think it'll be overlooked in his discog now. Ths could have been counted and rated as a brilliant new album, and sequel/companion... instead the buzz of the original is gone and nobody is really viewing these NEW collection of songs, put together as a new album... it's being overlooked.
Dec 21, 2020 "I have 11 years of sobriety" and by the time he dropped side B he already had 12 years. Come on man most of the songs are from the original MTBMB he just added some new ones and put it as a deluxe edition, side B whatever you wanna call it, just not a new album lol. Yeah maybe if it woulda been a new album with a new tittle woulda sell more but I do believe Em don't wanna put another official one out talking about the same things and he thought that if he will add this to Side A woulda make more sense which it does to me.
Dec 21, 2020 LMFAO Em being owned by talentless Tom Macdonald is hilarious, d--- the L’s just keep on coming for Marshall! Add this to the epic fail sales and this is probably the biggest L he has ever took!
Dec 21, 2020 So he marked 12 years sobriety April 2020. Side B was released Dec 2020 - so we would assume he's been working on it most of the year perhaps... as I do believe it is new material, not leftovers with a few additions. I think this is new material, that's why I keep saying new album. He released Side A in Jan, which means it was probably finished... Maybe Dec 2019? He could have started this material... Feb, March - any time before April and that line is true. I don't agree, so we'll have to just agree to think different here. To me it's obvious from the rap styles, writing and production that this is new material. Made in the same vein of course, but that more relaxed/laid back tone he's does through most and the writing style is exactly like recent feats and less like Side A. And this all has kind of one cohesive overtone to the sound, like a batch of new songs made together, and doesn't sound like Side A.
Dec 21, 2020 Where do you even buy music anymore? Ever since Google removed the Music store, I don't even know where now...I'm old school and don't like the whole streaming thing. I like purchasing my music and having it on a memory card.
Dec 21, 2020 They added some songs on some of the most famous Spotify Playlist, other than that Spotify New Music Friday at the Time Square. Projections will change for sure
Dec 21, 2020 It might get overlooked, but thats their problem, they choose to put it out this way, it will make the overall sales for MTBMB look better. There is also no line where the amount of songs can dictate if the project is a stand alone album or a deluxe, refill is 7 songs (9 if u count my darling and cwywf), this is 16 with skits. Where do u draw the line? It might look like a new album but it wont be counted as one. Thats the truth. It’s a deluxe with a lot of new material. Thats it.
Dec 21, 2020 I draw the line @ the fact this is clearly new material, that he made and put together as a new album. Refill was some of his picks from Relapse 2, but it wasn't the whole album or a newly crafted album. Most deluxe are bonus cuts which didn't make the original. Side B is clearly not only new but made as a new album, constructed as one, it isn't just a handful of leftover cuts - he's put this together as an album, so that's what I'm calling it. Because it's a new Eminem album. Not some Side A leftovers.
Dec 21, 2020 And You have the answer in Your post. They packaged it with the original TO SELL MORE OF THE ORIGINAL. You can't get the new songs individually. They don't care about the first week of SIDE B sales. They want to just prolong the MTBMB, let's call it, "franchise". They (or Em) believed the original went over some heads and took the opportunity to promote it some more. It is really just like Refill. It is longer because Em is prolific and on fire now, and gave us all those songs because, I guess, he still loves us after all.
Dec 21, 2020 It's not like Refill. Relapse 1 and 2 were all made in the same sessions and Relapse 2 was going to be those songs, from 'the Relapse sessions' with Dre. And Refill is some of his picks from those sessions. A handful of tracks he still wanted people to hear. Music to be Murdered By Side A is an independent album, and this is new material he has made and constructed as an entirely new album. No matter how you package it, what you title it or what you slice it. This is clearly new material and he put it together like a new album, it IS a new album. A sequel/made in the same vein sure, but no it's not like Refill. Refill isn't put together properly is it, it's like an actual deluxe - just a few extra songs slapped on.
Dec 21, 2020 I hope they will resign from "Deluxe Edition" label, and MTBMB will go down in history as just a double album.
