Eminem Best Posts: 'Eminem is a b----' Detroit Rap Pioneer says

  1. cdbleb
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    Feb 28, 2015
    It's funny. Most of you have no clue who Esham is, therefor don't even know the obvious influence he had on Eminem (WAYYYY more than the 1% @psychokid credits him for), but you're all real quick to defend Eminem without having any clue what you're taking about. Eminem plays the tough guy, and has been very vocal about people not mentioning his daughter in beefs. Esham did it. More than once. Guarantee Eminem has heard it. What did he do about it? Nothing. D12 and a bunch of other people jumped Esham and TNT, but Em wasn't involved. He tried to reconcile. Proof even worked with Esham on Trick Tricks album afterwards (So did Kid Rock).

    As far as what Esham has done for the city? First off he's not in the same financial place Eminem is. But, he is known for handing out thousands of turkeys to underprivileged families in the city throughout the holidays, as well as gifts for children, and things of that nature. Even that link posted about Eminem helping is bs. For one it's an organization that spans the U.S., not a Detroit thing. For two it's combined with a jacket embroidered with Eminem's logo that proceeds are donated to the charity. That's about promoting himself just as much as it is about helping the charity. d--- near every musician, athlete, actor, whatever has a charity in their name. Yeah, it's nice to do. But when your net worth is in the hundreds of millions, shouldn't there be a story of generosity about how you actually put YOUR money where your mouth is?

    Another of Esham's issues is that Eminem has his own radio station, and all this love for Detroit, but where is his promotion of local artists? He put King Gordy, and Miz Korona in his movie, that's about it. you can tell when Eminem has been put in his place, because he doesn't say s---. Royce dissed him, he didn't say s---. Esham has dissed him off and on for over a decade, hasn't said s---. Because Eminem knows that Esham has more respect in Detroit than he does.

    Eminem is older than Esham, but Esham had like 6/7 albums out already before Eminem put out SSLP, and has probably done another 10 or so since then. Esham has no reason to be jealous of Eminem, he did all of that without having a major distribution deal, and was a well known underground artist way before the digital age, pretty much relying on word of mouth.
     
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  2. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Mar 2, 2015
    If I remember correctly those bars were in response to an interview Esham did where he basically stated Em stole his style and basically was bitching about how MTV will put Em up but won't put him up despite them rapping alike etc. hence why Em said "I don't acid rap but I rap on acid" basically saying that he didn't steal his style but are similar. Then, some time later that's when the altercation with D12 happened and he got hospitalized which resulted in him taking shots at Hailey which is kinda stupid considering Em wasn't even there when he got jumped, he just insinuated that he was behind it. And here we are, 15 years later and this guys is still salty af trying to get a response out of Em. It's still pretty sad no matter which way you tell the story, it's like getting beat up in highschool and at your highschool reunion still hating the kid that beat you up lol get over it.

    At least with Benzino and Ja Rule, they were known figures in hip hop, Benzino being co owner of the source, Ja Rule being huge in the early 2000's so what they stated actually held some weight. Eminem dissing Esham would only benefit him by putting him on the spotlight and giving him free publicity. Em did the same exact thing when he had that little beef with Cage which stemmed over the same exact thing. He poked fun at him in a couple tracks while Cage made multiple full length diss tracks torwards him but he didn't pay him much mind.
     
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