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  1. Poohdini
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    Very embarrasing for Canelo and Oscar. 5 lbs is not that big of a deal for a fighter as big as Canelo is. All that s--- Oscar talked about Floyd and now his golden goose is vacating the belt instead of sticking to what he's said for the last year. Sad day for boxing.
     
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  2. eddie
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    it's not even that... I think it's the amount of pie they want. I know what Oscar did... he went in the meeting asking for like

    "70-30 and was like oh they don't want to work with us to make a deal."

    I know that Golden boy does not want to have Canelo drop in fame and lose out on money. BUT if canelo was really serious with what he said at the Khan fight.... he need to nut up and put the gloves on.

    I am a Canelo fan... but only because he as always been a fighter... he didn't fight Chavez Jr. and Now GGG.... f--- out of here!!!!
     
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  3. Mike Tyson
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    I think something people lose sight of in boxing is that it's okay to lose. Taking a loss against a very tough opponent (Amir vs Canelo) is better than winning against a very easy one (Floyd vs Berto).

    Canelo is a p----.
     
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  4. Dank Sinatra
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    Thats the problem with combat sports, no clear path for the best fighters to face in their primes. Bernard Hopkins was down to fight GGG even though he's fifty f---in years old, Im glad it didnt happen cause he would have gotten decimated but he ONLY wanted to fight the best available fighters.
     
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  5. eddie
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    I think you are absolutely right.

    BUT that comes from this generation. This idea that you can only be a great fighter or the best fighter if you are seen as untouchable.

    I would rather see someone like Duran or Chavez, De La Hoya... Gotti, Ward.... those fighters that were just down to fight and mix it up...

    I don't care if you are undefeated or whatever... who did you fight!!!
     
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  6. Mikey
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    Canelo is a p---- 100%. But the KO Khan took severley shortens your career. He could have been killed.
     
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  7. Charlie Work
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    It's not combat sports that's the problem. It's the way boxing is structured. UFC matchmaking is the best in all sports imo. You just need to find a sweetspot between what's good for the fighters and what's good for the business.
     
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  8. eddie
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    That's the problem.... because they only think about Business. They only want to capitalize off their fighter... and the way they do that is make his record balloon like Floyd.

    Golden Boy is only trying to make it so that Canelo is looked at as an all time great. Which the only way you do that is by fighting anyone and everyone.
     
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  9. Dank Sinatra
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    Hahaha you think ufc is the best? Joe Silva is the match maker and hes cracked out half the time, I get giving the fans what they want but more often then not it's nonsense. How do you explain a Mcgregor vs. Diaz II at welterweight or the ridiculous amounts of instant rematches after a decisive victory. Bellator has the best concept because they actually use a bracket, so you cant argue a title fight if they made it through the bracket.
     
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  10. Charlie Work
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    I don't, because that's not a thing. Brackets are cool too. Both are way better than boxing.
     
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  11. Dank Sinatra
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    Mcgregor was supposed to fight diaz at 170lb which makes no sense cause they are both natural lightweights.
    Brackets are the most logical way to decide championship, look at the strike force gp or K-1 grand prix. Or you can let Joe Silva get high off his a--- and decide which 2 fighters would look cool on a ufc poster
     
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  12. Charlie Work
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    Diaz was supposed to fight RDA. The injury set off all of the fuckery. It was also a case of Conor having leverage with the UFC. All has been righted and he's heading back down to defend the title. During his absence, Edgar and Aldo are fighting for the interim belt.

    The difference between the UFC and Bellator is that Bellator can do whatever they want bracket wise because their money shows are irrelevant freakshows. The UFC is a little different. They balance entertainment with sport really well. Better than the orgs you mentioned which are now defunct.
     
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  13. eddie
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    Fellas, fellas.... let's keep it boxing only in here.

    :comeon:

    Nah... just f---ing around... but I don't know s--- about UFC haha... :mjcry:
     
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  14. Dank Sinatra
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    K-1 GP is the most prestigious kickboxing tournament in the world not even close to defunct.

    And i was talking about the rematch which WAS scheduled for no reason at 170, and it probably will end up happening. Let Aldo & edgar fight for a fake title even though there is no reason for it. UFC has no balance, Joe Silva is a crack head, Dana White is the worst ambassador for a sport in all major organizations, and the Fertitta brothers are roided out f--- bois who should sell the company to people who can actually run a sports org.
     
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  15. Dank Sinatra
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    My man B-hop always got a solution, he's also minority share holder in Golden Boy Promotions.....
    but i think its a fair compromise


    "Hopkins says he does have a solution, one that’s been done before in boxing. Both fighters should enter into a contract in the middle of both weight classes (Canelo, 155 pounds, Golovkin 160), and have a cutoff of how much they can rehydrate up.

    “Cap it so you can gain no more than 10 pounds in the 24 hours between the weigh-in and the fight,” Hopkins said. “Then you won’t eat yourself up to be in another weight class. It’s absurd that someone can gain 20 pounds (during rehydration) and get in there with a guy that gains six pounds.”

    Sounds reasonable. Now if they can just get the two sides to agree . . ."

    @Poohdini @eddie @Mike Tyson
    What you guys think?
     
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  16. Charlie Work
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    K-1 is as good as dead m8. Glory is a bigger org nowadays.

    It was scheduled for a reason. It's called entertainment and money. You have to balance business with sport. That's how you make a successful organization. I'm sorry you dislike it, but the UFC's product is by far the best in combat sports. Bellator gets their leftovers.
     
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    I hate admitting it but your right, I still enjoy the Grand Prix more than most other tournaments though.....
    K-1 is OG aight
     
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  20. Poohdini
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    Difference is Floyd fought Berto when he was 38. Canelo is f---ing 25, Pretty Boy didn't duck anyone at that age.

    De La Hoya is a b----, but we already knew that.
     
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