May 8, 2015

 

May 8, 2015

he didn't say that word right...he paused before this word....he screamed too loud.....he said this...he said that....he makes music how he wants....do you think he goes to forums and says well...I better rap like what he says I should.....Get over it...he Raps how he wants...if you don't like it don't listen to it...and he will still do numbers...because you stupid a--- f---s wanna complain about how he feel off.....Get over it...you're just a f---ing idiot!!!

 

May 7, 2015

Competition breeds excellence. But in the case of Eminem, Drake, and the song “Forever,” raising the bar to show off might have had the reverse effect on Slim Shady.

Em’s style has become overly complicated in the five years since he appeared on the Canadian hitmaker’s first big-budget single. At the time, however, the Detroit spitter’s unorthodox tornado flow was unquestionably impressive.

When “Forever” originally dropped in late summer 2009, Shady was fresh off Relapse, a period where the uber-talented MC channeled his arsenal through a Hannibal Lecter character. He was sober for the first time in his career and needed a vessel to channel his newly found clarity, since the reckless persona he was known for didn’t really exist anymore. Keep in mind, all of this was after a five-year hiatus.

So when given the chance to be pitted against the current A-Listers — all of which he later admitted he once wanted to diss on wax — of course Eminem spazzed.

Holding down the vital final spot on the posse cut, the 313 rhymer raised the bar on every aspect of his verse. By ditching the serial killer schtick and cueing the chest-thumping rapper who once said “A plaque and platinum status is whack if I’m not the baddest,” Em set himself up to steal the show before he put the pen to pad.

There they go, packing stadiums as Shady spits his flow
Nuts they go, Macadamian they go so ballistic, whoa
He can make them look like Bozos
He’s wondering if he should spit this slow
F*ck no! Go for broke
His cup just runneth over, oh no
He ain’t had him a buzz like this since the last time that he overdosed
They’ve been waiting patiently for Pinocchio to poke his nose
Back into the game and they know
Rap will never be the same as before

But did going for broke and raising the bar invoke Marshall’s addictive persona? Did he convince himself this verse was his new lane? People clearly didn’t fall for the “3 A.M.” version of Eminem, but when he put the pedal to the metal and blew past Drizzy, Wayne and Kanye with a new, rapid-fire flow and aggressive delivery, well … the masses were right back on his jock.

After the accolades rained down, he moved forward with a new, high-powered battery in his back.

Eminem’s stop-and-go spitfire flow has been the prominent choice on every project he’s released since. The exclamation-point style was present throughout his follow-up solo albums — 2010’sRecovery and 2013’s The Marshall Mathers LP 2, as well as his Bad Meets Evil collaborative project with Royce Da 5’9”.

In certain instances, the aggression makes sense. In others? Not so much. For instance, why does a somber song like “Space Bound” or an easygoing, fun single like “So Far” need multisyllabic babble flows? These aren’t Twista records and Em doesn’t need to rap fast to stand out. More to the point, when the extra effort comes so frequently, his delivery feels forced and jolty, like he’s trying too hard. That’s not appealing, especially because Eminem can ride a beat better than d--- near anyone.

In recent months, Slim hasn’t stopped using the over-the-top flow, but he has altered it a bit.

On “Speedum” with Tech N9ne and Krizz Kaliko, he took his RPMs further than ever and beat the rapid-fire Kansas City MC at his own game. Actually, the fact Eminem went insane on his feature, and the song still went under the radar to the masses, should reinforce how his speedy style has officially jumped the shark. Kendrick’s “Control” verse got a hundred times the press and isn’t nearly as impressive.

On YelaWolf’s stirring “Best Friend” single, Marshall again starts off accelerated, but reels his flow in a bit as his verse progresses, almost easing into his form of old. By the song’s climax, he sounds on point as ever, spewing fiery spirit from the gut and coming across completely comfortable in his own flow.

Eminem will always be a draw and, no matter how he raps now, his spot in history will be forever reserved. But, when he gets too clever with every verse, he stops sounding like the natural talent we’ve known for the last 20 years, his cachet suffers. Hopefully, he’s getting over the hump and can finally see beyond his 16 from “Forever” — the last verse people truly loved from him, and ironically, the one that would eventually turn many (aka @Koolo ) against him.

 

May 8, 2015

What a closeted stan u are..

Is there an Eminem thread out there that you haven't made an appearance in?

 

May 8, 2015

Eminem's Forever verse was at it's time one of the most revolutionary things in rap. When rap was in a state of despair with Kanye's emo 808's and the best thing around was Young Money and Gucci Mane, Eminem came with one of the most raw verses in years. The speed combined with the syllables and witty Hannibal Lecter references reminded us why he is king and made us realize how much we had lowered our standards in his absence. Rap from 2007 all the way to 2009 had basically been non existent, and with this monumental verse, Em resuscitated it.

 

May 8, 2015

:wut:

 

May 9, 2015

holy s--- he can't be real

huh? This statement is just LOADED with problems

1) How does "nitpicking the execution" detract from artistic intention? A: It doesn't. They're totally independent of one another.
2) Why is it nitpicking? Everything Narsh has said has been substantive.
3) Even if Eminem is the most popular artist on earth (I think that's up for debate, but it's not a debate I care to have), what does that have to do with anything? So a lot of people like his stuff, so he's immune to criticism?

This is SO indicative of why people laugh at your posts - your logic doesn't stand up to scrutiny

"Incorporating up to the minute rap techniques"? What the f--- are you even saying?

The Monster isn't deep simply because you say it is. Does it deal with real, genuine emotions? Sure, probably. That doesn't mean it's well-executed. It's filled with the same easy, simplistic, 7th-grade-poetry-level writing we've seen from Em since he came back from his hiatus. Tired, pedantic "seize the moment" messaging tailor made for the Instagram captions of 15-year-old girls. "Fame made me a balloon, cuz my ego inflated!" Wow, really stunning and complex lol

Did anyone say the verse didn't "get across the message"? No one is confused about what the song is about. Its messaging isn't in dispute. It's the quality. "Chumpions", "you must h8 me y do u d8 me", the "get back up and UNNNGGGHHHH"...it's consistently cringeworthy both lyrically and musically. "Em's singing is beautiful"

Jesus, you overthink things. "Commentary on the game"? A play on The Way I Am? It's a s-----y, unimpressive attempt to capture the spirit of Slim Shady. It's saddled with bad production, a hook lacking in any melody (or appeal at all, really), and once again, bad writing. "Even Helen Keller knows life stinks!" Haha, get it? It's cuz she was blind and deaf, and life's so bad that even a blind and deaf person could notice! Eminem is so smart.

"I'm about to set it on you like a mothafuckin' coasta!!"

Is this a joke? Headlights is incredibly straightforward. That's about all it has going for it.

It goes back to the Monster argument. Is there a genuine emotion there? Yeah, absolutely. Doesn't mean I'm gonna be able to keep a straight face when Marshall shouts "YOU'RE STILL BEAUTIFUL TO ME, CUZ YOU'RE MY MAHNGH"

Really? A reference to an old verse by itself "makes it more than great"? Pretty low bar for greatness you've got there - might explain why you hold such a subpar album in such high esteem.

THIS is where I f---ing lost it...So Far is a "brilliant storytelling track" Listen to a real storytelling track and get back to us. So Far is Em squandering a fun beat/sample to talk about picking his nose and taking a dump. Narsh already touched on this, but if you truly think this is "unprecedented" - dude, listen to more music. I have a feeling this isn't the first time someone's suggested that.

So candid the way he suggested that if he didn't rap he'd be a, and I quote, "giant turd sack". The part where he discussed getting stomach gas from corn and mashed potatoes was so touching. When he said he'd make a sandwich with Welch and belch, I had tears in my eyes. Finally, an artist opened up about these issues.

"Feel like I'm in an animal shelta...with all these.............pet peeves!"

How is Survival being released with a video game impressive or significant to you at all lol

"The instrumental is the Lose Yourself beat"? As someone who has heard both songs, I beg to differ

"He references dozens of releases" - cool, how does that make it good? Takes no skill at all for someone to reference their own body of work. Again, your bar for success is insanely low.

Survival has at least 2 or 3 of the worst lines of Em's career, I can't even bring myself to quote them. It's the worst song on an album with plenty of bad songs.

You may be happy but you sure as s--- aren't wise

 

May 8, 2015

bad guy, rhyme or reason, legacy, rap god, evil twin and groundhog day are all solid 10s

symphony in h and don't front are both fantastic as well

 

May 8, 2015

LOL
@Narsh: s80's mmlp2

 

May 8, 2015

Yes Relapse is an undeniable classic and I agree, but the Forever verse was something special.

 

May 8, 2015

stop bullying me

 

May 7, 2015

lol bored?

 

May 9, 2015

I bet Eminem would be legit creeped out and feel like his music was a bad thing if he knew how many people sit around analyzing his every move. Creepiest section on the internet is an Eminem section, anywhere.

 

May 8, 2015

Bad Guy is great, I like it better than Stan tbh. That beat

 

May 8, 2015

you should actually blow your brains out tbh...

 

May 8, 2015

I think a person whose posts consist of "lol" and "go on" doesnt warrant a response

 

May 8, 2015

stop kidding yourselves. the incline em is on now, which started with relapse, has lasted longer than his hiatus did. hts bridged every gap left over from between tes and recovery, and mmlp2 is not going to be truly appreciated the way the project deserves to be for a very long time