May 10, 2015

I don't think it's right, but it's terrible that people can actually feel that way. Depression is a serious thing people deal with everyday. I've had plenty of suicide incidents in my family and some have even been my friends. It's terrible as someone who loves them to think about what I could've done to help or prevent the situation. It may be a cowardly way to go, but mental illness is a big contributor. That's from personal experience.

 

May 12, 2015

I think it's selfish to the people you leave behind. But if the person is in enough pain where there was no other way out and they tried to seek as much help as possible then it's tough. Some girl last week who was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer flew to NYC and jumped of the George Washington Bridge. Every state should allow assisted suicide to prevent things like this. If someone's in enough pain with no other way out it's way more selfish to keep them here while they suffer

 

May 10, 2015

There are times in our lives where we are in situations that we don't know what to do with our suffering. It's during those situations where we are the most vulnerable, violent and imminent to danger.

I had severe depression from late 2005 to early 2007. No one helped me climb out of that except myself, but my parents did provide me the time and space to eventually overcome it.

Jay Electronica said it best: "Love is the only thing that can save us all."

 

May 10, 2015

My brother killed himself a decade ago and I literally wasted 7 years of my 20's mourning his death, so, yes, it's an incredibly selfish thing to do. I would k--- to get those years back.

Before that though I probably would have it's an individual's decision and I'd say a prayer that they they got the peace they couldn't find on this planet.

 

May 10, 2015

I think that every situation is different regarding each person's limits, condition (mental and physical) etc etc. It's obviously a last resort solution, but that's where the generalisations end imo. It's a personal choice and I don't know what's going on with someone's life. Our minds and bodies can take that much, if someone (and his/her doctors) have done their best and can't give or take anything more I won't call him/her a coward.

If I had x weeks to live and have exhausted all possibilities, I'd rather k--- myself instead of watching my parents watching me rot and spoonfeeding me every day, I don't think that'd be selfish on my part. I won't speak about mental health problems because I can't even imagine what's going on with some of these, and sometimes it's just the only way out. You can't judge if you don't know what's going on, and saying that it's the easy way out is very easy to say if you're looking from a distance.

 

May 10, 2015

I am not one of those people who look at it as a cowardly act. Obviously people who do this have some serious issues.

 

May 10, 2015

As someone diagnosed with clinical depression, I can't say I haven't contemplated it a million times. I ended up deciding that I would rather k--- time on Earth taking and snorting as much Xanax as I could to numb the pain. I'm 5 months clean now and taking things one day at a time. Sometimes I think about suicide still, but I'm better at rationalizing my emotions and handling it.

 

May 10, 2015

I appreciate it and it doesn't bother me too much anymore. Never underestimate the healing power of time I guess. But yeah, it was pretty much worst case scenario without somebody else being killed. When it's put into context I think my stance on suicide(I pissed a lot of people off in the Robin Williams thread IIRC) makes more sense. I was 20, he was 19. We lived together and had an ugly, ugly fight the night before. After a drunken night of partying or whatever, words were exchanged over nothing, blows were thrown and I said some really evil s---. That was the last time I ever saw him. The next day he went out into our backyard and put a shotgun in his mouth. I heard it and everything. The f----- up thing and I've learned this since then is nobody cleans that s--- up(in any suicide). My roommates and I were left to do that. You would think there's some type of government sanctioned crew that would do that but there's not and like I said we had to. Anyways, that's where I got my s-----y attitude about suicide from. I'll never get those years back and it's f----- up but the more time that passes I understand that people shouldn't be living in pain and if they just don't want to be here anymore it's their prerogative and it's ultimately their decision. However, it's a decision that comes with major, life altering consequences for otherwise completely innocent people.

 

May 10, 2015

as far as the legality of doctor assisted suicide etc goes, but morally? and as an individual? I dont know. I know there are mental illness that could result in suicide, and that we cant have a negative stigma about that -- we need to find ways to help those people not scrutinize their actions.

But then again, anyone considering this must have something off in their brain right? It seems like a contradiction to be sane and rational but want to end your life. Unless, you're already on your deathbed.

There was a time in my life where I was probably clinically depressed, and considered this. Its scary how easily a misguided kid could venture into this territory. All I needed in the end was a friend of mine who talked some sense into me. He put things into perspective. And I have reasons now that will always prevent me from going down that train of thought again...my family, my goals in life, whatever.

I guess what Im saying is, more times than not, people in this situation need an outlet. They need support. Whether it be a therapist, or meds, or a combination of both. Friends, family, etc. We need to let go of the stigma surrounding those who're having trouble sticking it out till..what? a natural death. or a drunk driver. or a home invasion. or a million other ways to day. We shouldnt be alienating these people.

 

May 10, 2015

I've never thought about it, even when I've been in really bad places, because no matter what, there is always something to be smile about. I've stayed up one night to stop someone from taking their life and ever since, she's been so happy with her life, which makes me happy. I could never take my own life because I always see the good, even in a bad situation and I'm a very positive person

 

May 10, 2015

I'm personally against it.. it goes against my religious beliefs, but I won't turn the thread into that. It's a sad situation when it happens regardless, and it leaves the burden on the family, and it's a selfish cowardly act in my views.

 

May 12, 2015

I understand where those who say that suicide is selfish and cowardly are coming from. That conclusion is fine on paper, but realistically people who get to the point where they are even considering taking their own lives are nowhere close to being in a sound mental state. My father committed suicide when I was younger and I since have also been diagnosed with chronic depression (among other disorders) so I have first-hand experience on both sides. Yeah, it's very simple for most people to realize that if someone were to take their own life that there would be extreme emotional trauma and confusion affecting the family/loved ones/peers of the deceased. When my dad passed I had questioned his love for me (Did he not love me enough to stay alive?), my "involvement" in his decision (Is there anything I could have done? Was I too mean?), etc.. but for people who are very seriously contemplating killing themselves, they honestly and truly believe that their families would be better off without them. They don't recognize that they would be hurting them more by killing themselves than they ever have while alive. Regardless of how you view suicide and depression, I do think that most people would agree that it’s important for those who suffer from mental illnesses or suicidal thoughts to get help and for the public to be more aware of these situations to prevent future devastation and that's all that really matters in my opinion.

One thing I'll never understand though are those who say that we should let people "make the choice" to k--- themselves. People who decide to commit suicide are acting on impulses brought to them from their illness. Human beings are not defined by their illnesses. It can, and will, get better for them with time and proper treatment.

 

May 10, 2015

I used to work internships at hospitals & at my school being a psych major and all. Depression and other mental illnesses are real and brutal conditions, trying to talk people out of it to tell you the truth were the most difficult challenges I've ever been presented with since people really were at points in their lives where they felt they had no more purpose to live. It's unfortunate really awful things in this world exist and no one ever deserves being in stressful and painful situations so I can understand why people do it, however there's just way too much to lose if you consider it not just for yourself but for the people that do love and care about you. Being to be able to identify & acknowledge the contemplation of suicide/depression saves lives, just listening and talking to people in general can make one h--- of a difference...my condolences to any one here that lost a loved one because of this.

 

May 10, 2015

Well, it's tricky. On one hand he talked about it and threatened it a LOT. It was obviously on his mind but I mean you reach a point where we heard it so many times that it became the boy who cried wolf. I always thought it was for show but yeah, he talked about it often. About 3 months before the actual suicide though we had a conversation one Sunday morning. He came into my room and was like "You know how I've always threatened suicide? Well last night me and (the mother of his child) got into our ugliest fight yet. I took my gun, went out into the backyard and put it in my mouth. I was going to s---t myself but honestly Solo, it scared the f---ing s--- out of me and I threw the gun down. I now know that I'd never have the balls to ever do it." So, I mean.... like after our fight that night my other roommate asked me "You don't think he'd do anything stupid, do you?" I hesitated but I flashed back to that conversation and said no, I know he won't. I was wrong. I've read books on suicide since then and literally every single warning sign was there... but it's different when you're in the situation and it's extremely easy to Monday morning quarterback the situation after the fact. A few other things. The night before he did that he was worried about running out of cell phone data so he went and purchased more so he wasn't billed for going over his limit. We also went tanning that night and he bought a month pass. So on one hand yes it was very spontaneous. On the other, we should have known. Like I said it's tricky.


Edit- Another thing that I still think about is like two months before he shot himself we had some girls over. One of them started talking about how she was sad because of a friend of hers hung himself and my brother interjected "Who the f--- cares. Nobody likes or respects a quitter" and we laughed our a----s off. So, yeah...

 

May 10, 2015

its more of a fashion trend tbh i miss the good old double murder suicides now its just depressed teenagers

 

May 12, 2015

I really don't have a formal opinion on it. It does depend on the given situation of the individual but if your really interested in the topic you should check out the short film Mr. Happy. Its on YouTube and it has Chance the Rapper in it. It was a really interesting take on suicide and how much people can really mean to someone going through a rough time. @rapmusik @ToPimpALegend @Zep @Enigma @Ozy @zadarina

 

May 11, 2015

Mental illness related suicide is really sad. It's something most only understand if they've been through it themselves, be it attempted suicide, depression, suicidal thoughts, etc. It should never be labelled as a selfish or cowardly act.