Bernie Sanders for US President 2020

Started by Yeezus, May 12, 2015, in Life Add to Reading List

Will you vote for Bernie Sanders?

  1. Yes

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    52.6%
  2. No

    39 vote(s)
    33.6%
  3. Not eligible to vote

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    13.8%
  1. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Apr 4, 2016
    i mean, no, she's not. lol. she's certainly not a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, and she has a reputation (not unearned, e.g. her iraq vote) for being hawkish, but let's be real.
     
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  2. blair
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    Apr 4, 2016
    Anyone who isn't Bernie Sanders authentic is a closet republican according to the stans
     
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  3. Lamont
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    Apr 4, 2016
    I mean,ya, she is. Not only that, she isn't even a consistent neo conservative. She's flip flopped on immigration, gay marriage, TPP, nafta, but now is supposed to be socially liberal. She's a neocon.




    I'm voting for Trump so i'm not sure what you are talking about
     
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  4. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Apr 4, 2016
    the act of "flip-flopping" doesn't make someone a neo-con. the platform she's running on is all that matters w/r/t this conversation and you'd be hard-pressed to call it anything but Democratic.
     
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  5. Lamont
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  6. blair
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    Cool, I'm not a fan or Bernie or Hillary either, however, she is far from anything conservative and politicians changing their mind is nothing new. Find one candidate who hasn't. Bernie has so don't try to name him.
     
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  7. Lamont
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    Apr 4, 2016
    no she is a neo conservative.
     
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  8. blair
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    Thanks, I believe you now
     
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  9. white jesus
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    white jesus god's son

    Apr 4, 2016
    "She's a neo conservative"

    "No she's not she's a Democrat"

    rofl
     
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  10. BrandonB1415
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    Apr 4, 2016
    How people can see the quality of life in socialist countries like Sweden and not think the US should do more to be like that is crazy to me.

    But it's just the culture people where raised in I guess. People just stick with what they have been consciously and subconsciously told is right as opposed to what has been proven to actually work
     
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  11. Lamont
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    I know people that live in Sweden. My sister married a software developer whose family is well off - his college education was very instrumental to his life & success, and of course in Sweden college is free and so is health care. So if my taxes are higher so people can go public colleges, then I think that is one of the best investments our country can make
     
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    Flacko Too Blessed To Be Humble

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  14. Chris_sirhC517
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    Apr 6, 2016
    You mean Bernies platform? LOL. I know, I know, I'm a Sanders fanboy If I believe the obvious conclusion that she is adopting his platform. Save it.
     
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  15. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Apr 6, 2016
    clinton is not "adopting bernie's platform" lmaooooo. she's been pushed maybe a tiny bit to the left, and has been forced to clarify and re-clarify her stance on wall street, but she's not taking up any of his hallmark issues, and she's continuing to push back on many of them.
     
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  16. lil uzi vert stan
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    Apr 6, 2016
    welll... she's clearly been pushed left. sure, on free college she's pushed back (and other of his silly proposals, tru), but i think it's quite obvious bernie is dominating the tenure of this primary. he's leading the media narrative and - frankly - hillary's run a fairly gaffe prone campaign.

    shes still the frontrunner, but its undeniable he's been on message with his (few) talking points, which are tailor made for a campaign
     
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  17. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Apr 6, 2016
    *tenor

    hillary's run a middling-at-best campaign, but where do you see her being dragged left by him?
     
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  18. Chad Warden
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    Chad Warden As Ballin As Possible

    Apr 6, 2016
    Hillary has always been somebody who goes with trends. Anyone who's first election wasn't 2012 should know this.
     
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  19. lil uzi vert stan
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    lol thanks for the copy edit -- do u do this professionally?

    and you're making a huge, profound understatement. i can explain why with three letters: T, P, and another P.
    that's prob exhibit a -- hrc pulled a complete 180 on something she was instrumental in crafting

    that's the most specific and stark example: but everything from honing in on racial justice to (if i may tweak ur earlier pt) being way more vocal about curbing wall street than she would've been. its v common in primaries for base purists and ~ideologues to dictate how the mainstream leader campaigns. this is no diff
     
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  20. Chris_sirhC517
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    Apr 6, 2016
    tenor? lol. This isn't a musical piece. Tenure is the correct noun used there.
    We can talk about a number of things, but its so obvious to everyone but you.
     
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