Jun 16, 2015

remember a few posts up when i said it's important to understand the cultural context of a work

 

Jun 16, 2015

and yet seemingly you're ignoring that rule when it comes to tes... you can't dismiss soldier and believe that

 

Jun 16, 2015

not at all. i fully understand/acknowledge the context in which the album came out. i get why the album exists. i understand, given those factors, why it was so commercially successful. none of those things make the work better. The Eminem Show doesn't exactly need a lot of unpacking.

 

Jun 16, 2015

The Eminem Show is my favorite album of all time but these results are embarrassing. MBDTF is better by a decent bit

 

Jun 16, 2015

all im gonna say is all of the lights is the gay anthem and i hope to god i never hear that piece of s--- song again. f--- the production f--- the lyrics f--- it all

 

Jun 16, 2015

nope, f--- that song.

 

Jun 16, 2015

regardless of whether or not you're critiquing the album in a vacuum, its flaws still remain -- dont they? the bad features, the filler/subpar tracks, clunky writing in spots, etc

ive never said the album was anything less than great, but my argument has been that SSLP/MMLP are probably better (and that its obviously not one of the best hip hop albums since 2002).

 

Jun 16, 2015

@Koolo is that u m8?

 

Jun 16, 2015

the song is terrible. i remember @M Solo making a thread about it on SL that pretty much summed up it all up

 

Jun 16, 2015

All of the Lights is great. Especially live. Gonna have to disagree with you @Soldier

 

Jun 16, 2015

track hits me right in my big gay heart tbh

its :beaut:

 

Jun 16, 2015

the worst part about all of the lights is fergie, but otherwise its a good song

 

Jun 16, 2015

no i agree, although ive always debated or not or prefer mmlp or tes. mmlp is the more seminal work... sslp is good i just dont like it as much as the other two

well, eminem isnt a particularly subtle artist. that said, ive always enjoyed the potency of his post WTC, bush criticisms a mere eight months after 9/11. people talk about the rising as the definitive album response to that tragedy, but i think theres an argument tes is actually more authentic

 

Jun 16, 2015

bro let's be rl about something

The Eminem Show is not a response to 9/11 lol

 

Jun 16, 2015

i agree, only to an extent. i think eminem is one of the greatest because of what he has done, and he is pretty much my favorite, but his music is increasingly disappointing. that phenomenal song reminded me of relapse.

 

Jun 16, 2015

I know that sounds like a reach but I don't remember too many albums (or movies) talking about it as explicit as tes did in May 2002. Anyway my point is the rising was recorded before 9/11 then repackaged as this mournful ode to a wounded city -- tes clearly was written in late 2001 and is historically one of the first things I remember out to tackle the subject matter head on

(25th hour stands out but that was released in the fall)

 

Jun 16, 2015

Just relistened to the first half of TES and the 3 song stretch of Square Dance, Soldier, and Say Goodbye To Hollywood holds up pretty d--- well. Not really getting the criticism that his music sounds dated, even though these topics are tied to a very specific time period...

 

Jun 16, 2015

THIS IS BIN LADEN, LOOK AT HIS HEAD NODDIN

 

Jun 17, 2015

thats encore, dont be silly - this is srs