Kendrick Lamar Did Kendrick Lamar really k--- someone?

Started by Oldboy, Jun 25, 2015, in Kendrick Lamar Add to Reading List

  1. Oldboy
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    Jun 25, 2015
    would explain some things tbh

    did he really k--- anyone? other than all them rappers ofc
     
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  2. Jaya
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    Jun 25, 2015
    i've thought about this before and i am torn
     
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    WHAT IF KENDRICK LAMAR REALLY DID k--- SOMEONE?

    He watched House Party and ate Apple Jacks, sold Sega games while his cousin sold crack, pumped Reeboks while his uncle pumped packs. Since his introduction to the world, Kendrick Lamar has been the good kid from an ugly city. He embraced his roots, accepted being a boy from the hood, painting himself as Tre instead of Doughboy. Since birth, he was inducted into the madness. We’ve seen the album cover, a baby at a table with a 40 next to a baby bottle. Heard the tales of his homies, how he witnessed their departure into darkness. He could’ve been them. Somehow, he stayed away from the gangs. Kept his head in a notebook instead of rolling up papers. He left Compton untainted, a survivor, and told the world his story. Just as Obama became a symbol for hope when he was elected, Kendrick’s story has made him into an example for kids living in the same jungle.

    What if Kendrick wasn't always so good? What if something traumatic happened that changed his life?

    “Been feeling this way since I was 16” – "The Blacker The Berry"
    “If I told you I killed a n----- at 16, would you believe me? Or see me to be innocent Kendrick you seen in the street” – "M.A.A.D City"
    “So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street, when g--- banging make me k--- a n----- blacker than me” – "The Blacker The Berry"
    “As a kid I killed two adults, I’m two advanced” – "Hol Up"
    “My innocence been dead” – "Ab-Soul’s Outro"
    When Kendrick sat down with Rob Markman of MTV to discuss TPAB, he brought up the last line of "The Blacker The Berry" and Kendrick said his lyrics are from his experiences, his real life. “I been through a lot, I seen a lot, where I come from, I’ve done a lot to tear down my own community,” he said. I wanted Rob to dig deeper. What, exactly, had he done to tear down his community? Kendrick’s face shows there’s something he’s keeping below the surface. As soon as you even allow yourself to ponder the idea, to consider even the hypothetical scenario that Kendrick has truly murdered another man, your brain starts to shut down. It’s like if Batman killed the Joker, no one would believe it. That goes against his moral code, no matter what the crime or criminal, there’s a line he wouldn’t cross. Or, maybe more accurately, a line we think he wouldn't cross, as if we really know his life, as if we really know Kendrick Lamar Duckworth.



    If these were Bobby Shmurda lyrics there would be no doubt. They would match his image, a young man that turned his reckless lifestyle into rap music. When Bobby said Mitch caught a body a week ago it was more than a catchy lyric, we all believed him. The police believed him. Yet, Kendrick says he killed a man, and we mask it as metaphorical. Assume it’s conceptual, that he’s speaking from another perspective. And it very well may be...but what if he's not? Just allow yourself to think if for a moment. Kendrick has also insisted that the stories he tells are real ones, although not always his story. But what if he really did s---t someone? What if gangbanging really did make him k--- someone? Even if he confessed the entire story, would you believe him?

    On "Sherane," Kendrick’s mom tells him, “If he keeps f---in around in the streets, he won’t make it to the next grade, 11th grade.” Between 10th and 11th grade you're likely 15 or 16 years old. This time period seems to hold great significance. This is when he’s breaking into homes, smoking weed and roaming the streets in his momma’s van. He's been in circles that were causing mayhem in the streets, at the age of nine he was hanging with a crew of kids packing vans with guns and seeing someone get their brain evicted from the skull. Not saying he was active, but Kendrick is able to document the mad city because he was in the heart of it. Flags didn’t hang from his back pocket, but his affiliation with friends likely threw him into dangerous situations and scenarios. One unlucky night was around each corner, grandma staying in the wrong neighborhood could lead to guns drawn and bullets soaring. Kendrick went from being a product of his surroundings to escaping through music. Something triggered this mentality change, what if the change was brought because he killed someone? Imagine if the ending of GKMC is fictional, instead it’s like Boyz In the Hood except Tre doesn’t get out the car. You got a bunch of boys, filled with rage, who just witnessed a friend die. I believe they got revenge before an old woman with holy water baptized them.

    And if this bottle could talk *gulp* I cry myself to sleep
    b---- everything is your fault
    Faults breakin' to pieces, earthquakes on every weekend
    Because you shook as soon as you knew confinement was needed
    I know your secrets
    Don't let me tell them to the world about that s--- you thinkin'


    "U" is Kendrick at his most personal. It’s chilling how he was able to convey such emotion. The song highlights his faults, moments where he let himself down. Failing as a role model, failing as a brother, failing as a friend, confessing his suicidal thoughts, it all pours out of him like punctured blood vessels. That last verse it seems like he’s about to make a confession, but instead decides to chug from the bottle. An incident that shook him to the core, an altercation that could’ve lead to confinement. He carries an immense amount of survivor’s guilt, it’s apparent on a good portion of TPAB, but it feels like he’s haunted by more than just escaping. Through music he’s seeking redemption for the all the wrongdoings in his past. By becoming a beckon of light, he stops the cycle that stole his friends, enemies and his innocence.

    "Yesterday I invaded privacy of a home
    The day before that my partner had fronted me a zone
    A week before I had loaded bullets inside that chrome
    Two weeks before that I shot them bullets and he was gone
    A month before that I cursed my mother then slammed the door
    Six months before that I hit my woman, she hit the floor
    I stormed out then seen a black Honda Accord
    Them hollow tips missed me then hit that little boy
    "




    There’s a song called “His Pain” on BJ The Chicago Kid’s mixtape, Pineapple Now & Laters, that I always felt should’ve been placed on Section80. The title is fitting and Kendrick completely dominates the song with a grief stricken performance. He raps three verses before BJ even appears on the song. The hook is Kendrick repeating, “I don't know why He keep blessing me,” while illustrating the cold world that he’s currently trapped in. The second verse, he talks about home invasions, murder and domestic violence. He’s talking loading bullets and blasting, being shot at, surviving but a stray bullet hitting a bystander. We can assume this is incredible creative writing, or incredibly candid storytelling. In the third verse he says, “I analyzed on how a saint can play the villain,” self-reflecting on who he is, and who he is becoming right before having a revelation. He believes God blessed him so he can bless us. That’s the Kendrick Lamar mission. To redeem himself by using his life to redeem others.


    This is the theory that my buddy Kelechi and his brother Ukandu brought to my attention in a group text. I was in denial when they first shared the evidence, claimed it all as reaching, but it’s hard not to at least seriously consider once all the dots connect. The text thread is literally full of countless “oh s---,” “f---” and “you have to write this.” It feels dirty to even think. Kendrick is hip-hop’s golden child. We finally had a rapper that wasn’t just about money, b------s and violence, his thoughts are bigger than the clichés, and I would hate to taint his image with mistakes made during adolescence. I respect the fact that he puts it out there, like an Easter egg for listeners to find. Something happened during Kendrick’s 16th year, possibly an accident, maybe self-defense, but it changed him forever.


    I know friends that come from good homes, great parents and still get tangled up with the wrong crowds. The kind of guys that never break into homes but stand outside as lookouts. They wouldn’t rob a bank, but they have been a part of check fraud. This is how I always imagined Kendrick, flirting with danger, but never gave into the temptation. If he held a pistol, it was unloaded. He got fired from his job after being pressured to stage a robbery. This isn't the kind of guy that is expected to be a kingpin of crime. I figured he spoke as a witness, he rapped from the perspective of an observer. That’s the person I connected with, who I rooted for. He symbolized overcoming a life in a rough environment. The thing about being a rap fan, the lyrics are sacred. We spend time dissecting and separating the real, phony, and exaggerations. His stories were real, but when he touched on subjects that seemed out of character, I dismissed them as just that - Kendrick channeling a character. Now, things have changed a bit. The information isn't new, it's always been there, I'm just now seeing the puzzle with all the pieces.


    Now this is not an article saying that Kendrick did it; as much as the police are increasingly trying to blur the lines, as much as rappers try to blur the lines, song lyrics are art, not confession. But ever since the day I first started thinking about this article, I was lookin at him different.






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  4. Rubens
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    Rubens The truth is an offense but not a sin

    Jun 25, 2015
    :weebey::wow5:good theory
     
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  5. GKBS
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    Jun 25, 2015
    Holy s---! I always did think he did,especially after TBTB. But no way made these connections with songs like His Pain. IMO, I think he did, unless it is metaphoric for something like Cole does with females/Hip Hop and Lupe with The Streets/The Game. Great post.
     
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    Pablo Dragon Z-azou

    Jun 25, 2015
    If he really did he's the stronger man on the earth.
    I mean how could he looks so nice and mentally sane all the time if he murdered a guy at 16 :emoji_flushed:
     
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    Rubens The truth is an offense but not a sin

    Jun 25, 2015
    it might sound corny but i think is his faith in god.
     
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    Pablo Dragon Z-azou

    Jun 25, 2015
    When you have listen to an album like GKMC this type of sentence don't sound corny at all
     
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    Jun 25, 2015
    So much cringe
     
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    Jun 25, 2015
    lol
     
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    CODEiNE DEMON One foot stuck in the tarpit of my ways

    Jun 25, 2015
    Not to trivialize the issue, but countless people from the same environment as Kendrick have killed and stayed sane, it's not some crazy feat
     
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    Jun 25, 2015
    kendrick the type a n----- to open the front door for a spider to get out the house this n----- ain't got it in him to take another n----s life
     
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    YiT Kornrow Kenny

    Jun 25, 2015
    I've always wondered this since the maad city outro. I'm kinda torn tbh, that article brings up some good points, and with all kendrick seen and had to go thru it wouldn't surprise me if he had to pull the trigger one time. Then again he's such a creative genius that he could just be running with the concept and the kdot "character" he has created. We'll probably never know for sure tho. Doesn't change the way it look at him at all tho.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Jun 25, 2015
    kendrick hasn't killed anyone ffs
     
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    Groovy Tony Grandma's baby Eddie Kane

    Jun 26, 2015
    "Have you ever seen a baby k--- a grown man?"

    :kdotcry:
     
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    Final

    Jun 29, 2015
    he killed your favorite rapper
     
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    Jun 29, 2015
    Yep yep... He dead.... Fo sho
     
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