Jun 26, 2015 This is actually exactly part of the problem with the verse. Anyone with half a brain already understood what Stan and Matthew symbolized. The verse tacked on at the end was basically as bad as telling a joke and then explaining why it was funny (kind of like he often did in the worst depths of his punchline era). You don't get to claim deep metaphor and symbolism if you go and lay it all bare two minutes later. Defeats the entire purpose in using those techniques in the first place. Eminem obviously thought his fans were too stupid to get it. In that sense, at least, it is pretty self-aware
Jun 26, 2015 When I first heard the "so one last time, im back" line I shed real tears bruh. Then I realized he always inexplicitly says that his respective album will be his last. As far from his prime as he is I really hope he won't leave us with MMLP2 as his last solo album
Jun 27, 2015 I agree that revealing the meaning defeated the purpose of using the literary device and the meaning was generally understood by almost everyone in the first place but it still doesn't stop the verse from being amazing imo
Jun 27, 2015 well fine. talk about the merits of the verse itself, the delivery, the rhyme scheme, whatever. but the only justification you gave was about how it explained the meaning of the characters, which is part of what makes it bad, not good
Jun 27, 2015 It doesn't make it bad at all. To each is own but by doing that he brought closure to the concept, which left me with a satisfying feeling like after finishing a movie. Even though the "what you had til it's gone" s--- was understood, im sure no one not even you knew exactly what they represented to Em, which is what i referred to (the I am/ i represent lines). Without this verse, would the song be as good as it is? h--- no. Like the 4th in stan, this verse ties everything together. The justification I gave makes it great along with the beat, the emotion, and the execution.
Jun 27, 2015 Agreed that it's not godlike tier of some of his other verses, I think it was just more of a shock to people to hear something like that from him. I don't think anyone expected that with all the s--- he had been putting out before MMLP2, and that's why they d-ck ride it so hard.
Jun 27, 2015 "@shadyhouse19946: Matthew says "9 freakin' hours and 45 minutes now" in "Bad Guy," which is the combined length of Eminem's 8 solo albums." SAW THIS ON TWITTER IS IT TRUE? IF SO THEN f--- YALL
Jun 27, 2015 Why everything got to be compared for top 10, top 5 etc.? I dont give a s--- where it lands, all I know is I still love the verse for what it is.. Probably the best verse on MMLP2
Jun 27, 2015 Fantastic verse. Obviously it's nothing compared to prime 99-01 material but it s----s on almost anything he's done since 2002.
Jun 27, 2015 Bad verse. The album is interesting when Eminem tries to dedramatize the myths he constructed and the character he created (Headlights, Evil Twin, Bad Guy...) while Bad Guy's 4th verse is just over-dramatic and makes the song less powerful.
Jun 27, 2015 I don't know why so many people like it ? like what is it about that verse that people like ? its a good verse, best on mmlp2 but i dont even think it would be the best verse since his comeback
