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Eminem Best Posts: if it turns out Eminem uses Ghostwriters

  1. Worm
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    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Jun 29, 2015
    If he is, he's hired some s-----y ghost writers the past few years
     
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  2. VMO2
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    VMO2

    Jun 29, 2015
    no, but he doesn't use ghostwriters anyway
     
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  3. LoveGame
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    LoveGame Love Game

    Jun 29, 2015
    But A rapper with a ghostwriter what the f--- happened?
     
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  4. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Jun 29, 2015
    if you think eminem is "sacrificing accessibility" in the service of "integrity" you're either naive or deaf. everything he's done since relapse has been tailored for major commercial success, sync deals, etc.

    your statement is laughably dumb in isolation, but even in context of this conversation--kanye's last album was yeezus. two albums before that, 808s.

    eminem fans are funny. they turn up their nose and kanye having other people in the room while he writes, but ignore the fact that eminem will have entire songs with beats, titles, concepts, and hooks in place delivered to him. he just fills in the blanks.
     
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  5. homeless bitch
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    homeless bitch homeless piece of shit with nothing to live for

    Jun 29, 2015
    i think what is trying to be said is that there is a fundamental difference between Kanye and Eminem's approaches to the creation process of the music. Eminem writes the entirety of his actual rapped verses. They are all lyrics he wrote down in his little note pads and random sheets of paper. Kanye, on the other hand, it sounds like he may employ other writers to enhance the overall product of the song, whether it be including their input on verses, choruses, melodies, bridges etc. This is a crucial difference between the two and speaks to the artistic integrity behind the actual rapped verses. Kanye seems to sacrifice some artistic integrity but in turn, this creates more palatable music when compared to Eminem's music (post-hiatus anyway). Eminem sacrifices the accessibility of his music for a higher degree of artistic integrity which also has its positives and negatives. The listener's relationship with the content in is verses is more intimate (different than personal) because it is the literal words of the person, Marshall Mathers. Kanye's music is more of a theatrical, cinematic experience which has its positives, but in turn, the listener isn't necessarily hearing the literal words of the person, Kanye West. These are fundamental differences between the two that can't be ignored when critiquing and evaluating the two artists. I am not saying one is better than the other; that is a subjective assertion that is irrelevant in this discussion.

    If it somehow turned out that Eminem employs other writers in the creation of his verses, that would be detrimental to his art because of the relationship he has established between his content and the listener. He would lose artistic integrity and appeal. One of the core reasons why Eminem has remained popular throughout the years is because the listener has been able to engage with his actual personal experience. This is a critical part of Eminem's artistry.
     
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  6. UsernamesAreHard
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    UsernamesAreHard

    Jun 29, 2015
    Dre ghostwrites for him duh
     
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  7. Jordan
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    Jordan ⛴⛵️✈️

    Jun 29, 2015
    Well, at least Infinite has no ghostwriters because he couldn't pay one :youngeminem:
     
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  8. Oldboy
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    Jun 29, 2015
    as good as recovery was, it was literally "fill in the blanks" album for Em...he almost did no hook on his own nor built a beat from scratch with any producer...it worked on recovery cuz it was something new for him so i feel he took care picking the right ones...then he went full lazy mode
     
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  9. rapmusik
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    Jun 29, 2015
    @Stephen it says "wrote with Eminem". they probably wrote the hook or bridge or whatever part Gwen Stafani is doing. similar to liz rodriguez hooks
     
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  10. Methods
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    Methods

    Jun 29, 2015
    DONE.
     
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  11. rapmusik
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    Jun 29, 2015
    could you imagine

    if jay Z wrote eminem's renegade verse?

    would that mean... jay Z renegaded himself? :weebey:
     
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  12. Final
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    Jun 29, 2015
    it's true?

    that is the reason why...

    rihanna doesn't write her own music, she literally gets handed a piece of paper with words on it and she reads it off

    kanye does the same f---ing thing, he's a b----

    they ARE performers
     
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  13. Renovator
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    Jun 29, 2015
    Kanye having ghostwriter a isn't really a problem as he is not solely known as a lyricist where Eminem is and it would be more disappointing as his lyrics is what made him
     
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  14. Intel
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    Intel

    Jun 29, 2015
    No, would be really disappointing and i would see at his career in a different way, probably because he always talks about how rapping is the only thing he knows how to do and because the main reason i listen to Em is for the lyrics.
     
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  15. rapmusik
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    Jun 29, 2015
    well I ghost wrote your post so :503:

    twist that
     
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  16. Renovator
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    Renovator

    Jun 29, 2015
    Candidates for ghostwriting the toilet humour

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  17. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Jun 29, 2015
    how is writing 16 bars about a pre-determined subject on someone else's beat with someone else's hook (and the song even titled for you) evidence of more "integrity" than a song where the artist produces the beat, creates the lyrics and vocals, but accepts a line or two from someone else?
     
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  18. Narsh
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    Jun 29, 2015
    Lmfao
     
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  19. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Jun 29, 2015
    nope. kanye west credits people who write on his songs. that's not ghostwriting.
     
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  20. Oldboy
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    Oldboy

    Jun 29, 2015
    Gone :allears:
     
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