Aug 13, 2015

All the hate I've been seeing on 2015 Eminem is unwarranted.
How is any of the verses/songs below actually bad?

SPEEDOM:

The flow ins't off beat . Its actually on beat f---ing perfectly if you listen There isn't a single corny line or anything like that. The rhyme schemes and technical aspects are absolutely insane. Rapping at quadruple time while still maintaining crystal clear enunciation while at the same time having coherent wordplay with droplets of storytelling is f---ing crazy. By most accounts, including mine, Eminem bodied Tech N9ne and Kirzz Kaliko and it wasn't even close.
MEDICINE MAN:

TES vibes. secretly the best verse on Compton. Wordplay is on point completely. The delivery is on point. The flow is incredible. Its not "choppy" or "off beat" at all. Eminem's writing is very tight and held together, each display of wordplay in this verse is sharp and intentional. There is a deliberate feel, like confidence, in this verse. Eminem sounds hungry. The build up is perfectly executed; the cadence and tone is theatrical. It feels like you are watching a performance. Its like listening to the inside of Eminem's mind, translating to a man on the brink, searching for his own conclusion. The emotion is conveyed perfectly to the listener bar after bar, and as the momentum builds you can feel another element begin to emerge. Its like eminem perfectly juxtaposed his voice with the instrumental melodies, its f---ing seamless. This is GOAT eminem material.
KINGS NEVER DIE:

This track is excellent. Gwen Stefani delivers. The production is appropriate and the delivery, flow, wordplay, subject matter is all on point.
ALL I THINK ABOUT:

The flow, the wordplay, the tone, the delivery; Eminem on this track is stellar. Vintage Bad Meets Evil aesthetic.
Eminem s--- all over Royce over and over again on this track. And that little A capella section was gold.
PHENOMENAL:

Underrated track. This song is good.
RAW:

Underrated track. A lot of you fickle dumbasses hop on the forum opinion bandwagon everytime a new em track drops. Notice the wordplay (see genius.com is you're too r-----ed to pick up on it) in the latter part of this verse. The flow is great.
BEST FRIEND:

Very good feature verse. The flow isn't off beat like may would like to say. The energy is great. The wordplay is again, top notch (inb4 some dumb n----- highlights the belly button lines)

Not to mention his sway freestyle
WE IN FOR ANOTHER CLASSIC
EMINEM IS IN HIS SECOND PRIME
IMAGINE AN ENTIRE ALBUM WITH THIS QUALITY

 

Aug 13, 2015

They said the same about the 2014 Eminem.

I heard DvsE yesterday and Ems verse was f---ing amazing, His flow was dope as h---.

I guess its just cool to hate Eminem these days. (at least in forums)

 

Aug 13, 2015

Listen to the Shady CXVPHER, the sway freestyle and tell me Em is weak lyrically. f--- the song criticisms, you can't tell me Em isn't spittin at a top tier level

 

Aug 13, 2015

My issue with 2015 Eminem is he is constantly sacrificing what would sound good for insane technicality in his raps.

 

Aug 13, 2015

K dots flow is entirely different than ems choppy. K dots is about 3 to 4 notches more toned down and simplistic. If you break down eminems it is truly impressive, it just sounds like s--- sonically. However to say he's used the choppy flow this year is flat out wrong his flow has been great

 

Aug 13, 2015

eminem went off on medicine man

at first listen i was like okay.. this is a nice change

but multiple listens later i can see it's a top 5 post hiatus verse easily

 

Aug 14, 2015

Em's delivery of the 'stop-go' flow is totally different and musically isn't as appealing compared to Kendrick, but I see you've acknowledged how your example was a bit iffy.

The problem with Em imo is mic presence. He's lost a fair bit of it. His flow has improved slowly this year but yelling/screaming doesn't really make up for his loss of mic presence.

Medicine Man was a good step in the right direction but then again we're not sure when those verses were recorded and whether or not he's progressed or regressed since then.

 

Aug 13, 2015

Playing "Gone" as I read this thread haha and Kendrick's flow is not choppy at all. Those are definitely natural, rhythmic pauses and they sound smooth af to the ears.

 

Aug 13, 2015

aaaah trying to remember how it went...but no i dont remember he used a stop and go flow there...esp the first part is amazing..i actually wish he kept the same flow/beat of the first part...i realize it would be kinda weird to keep going at the same pace..but i woulda loved it

but no he didnt use the annoying flow there...his screaming there is annoying but thats another discussion

 

Aug 13, 2015

I don't see the "TES vibe" in Medicine Man.
It's a good verse, but best on the album? No f---ing way
Phenomenal, All I Think About and Best Friend are incredible.
Raw is good though I like mostly because Royce Da 5'God" kills it.
Kings Never Die and Speedom are good in their own ways, though I don't feel the urge to listen to them often.
He isn't as bad as some people make him out to be.

 

Aug 13, 2015

i think its dope as h---.

 

Aug 13, 2015

GOAT

 

Aug 13, 2015

saying it sounds like s--- sonically then following up with saying his flow is great doesnt add up

 

Aug 13, 2015

the songs in op are f---ing abysmal

 

Aug 13, 2015

If, hypothetically speaking, Eminem delivered the exact same verse K.dot did on that in the exact same way K.dot did on that, I promise you no one would diss the verse.

 

Aug 13, 2015

Only difference is Em stops the beat like he's delivered the best punchline of all time.

 

Aug 13, 2015

He makes garbage music now, who cares if a lot of syllables rhyme